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41  Multimedia Center / Video / Internet TV / Tomorrow When The War Began [2010 MSM Film] on: January 09, 2011, 11:30:44 am
Tomorrow When The War Began [2010 MSM Film]

When their country is invaded and their families are taken, eight unlikely high school teenagers band together to fight.

Official Website http://www.twtwb.com/
Made in New South Wales, Australia





42  General / The Right To Bear Arms / Re: Death by Gun Control on: January 09, 2011, 11:17:13 am
The true agenda ( and I'm living in England ) is to make sure the plebes can not defend themselves from the state. Its not about firearms, its about "we the people" versus "the parasitic govt".

I say this as somebody who is not particularly against a handgun ban.

Is that a contradiction ?

Nope.

You see Handguns where not banned from the UK, as the Police, Secret Service, Customs Officers and other Govt Lackeys are still allowed Handguns.... Its the ordinary people who are banned from owning or using a handgun.

Which just goes to prove my original comment

Quote

Its not about firearms, its about "we the people" versus "the parasitic govt".

43  General / Ridiculous News / Oddball Stuff / Re: BBC's Worst Radio Show investigates the 'Dead Birds' falling from skies. on: January 09, 2011, 11:08:42 am
I wish I knew one of those birdwatching people to ask what on earth is going on !
44  General / General Discussion / Re: Dead Body delivered on Madonna's doorstep on: January 09, 2011, 11:06:51 am
ROFL
45  The Economy / Taxation / ‘deeply unethical and tax avoiding’ - Google is Evil on: January 09, 2011, 04:39:06 am
Ex C4 boss’s vitriolic onslaught on ‘deeply unethical and tax avoiding’ web giant Google

By Lawrie Holmes
Last updated at 12:53 AM on 9th January 2011


The former head of Channel 4 has launched an astonishing attack on Google, branding it a ‘monstrous’ parasite that should be broken up.

Luke Johnson, one of Britain’s best-known entrepreneurs, accused the ‘arrogant’ internet giant of acting unethically by avoiding tax and attacked its ‘cosy relationship’ with the Government.

Mr Johnson said Google, which has the corporate motto ‘don’t be evil’, exploits loopholes to keep the corporation tax it pays on its vast earnings outside the US at exceptionally low levels.

By dominating web advertising, the company, which has its European base in Ireland, also siphons off revenue that once supported quality content in television and newspapers, he said.

Mr Johnson said the admiration for Google displayed by Government Ministers such as Chancellor George Osborne was ‘deeply misjudged’ and that the company should be broken up.

He also said Google invaded privacy and called Street View, its archive of street-level photographs, ‘monstrous’.

In October, Google reported net income of £1.4 billion for the third quarter of 2010.

According to Bloomberg, Google’s non-US tax rate has averaged just 2.4 per cent over the past three years. The main rate of corporation tax rate in Ireland is 12.5 per cent, while in the UK it is 27 per cent.

John Christiensen, director of the Tax Justice Network, echoed Mr Johnson’s comments, saying: ‘Google is pushing the tax position to the max to avoid paying tax. If any company wants to claim the ethical high-ground, it needs to be tested on this.’

Previously, Business Secretary Vince Cable said: ‘We are plagued with the problem of companies based in Ireland to avoid tax.’

A Google spokesman said the company ‘complies completely’ with the tax laws of the countries in which it operates. ‘As a result, we make a very substantial contribution to taxation and provide employment for around 1,000 people in the UK.’

Mr Johnson made his fortune with restaurant chains, including Pizza Express and Signature. He was made chairman of Channel 4 in 2004 but stepped down last January.

Since 2001, he has run private equity firm Risk Capital Partners Ltd.

Why the Tories are so wrong to cosy up to this parasite


By Luke Johnson

Former chairman of Channel 4

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1345441/Google-called-deeply-unethical-tax-avoiding-ex-C4-boss.html#ixzz1AX82HCGk


Google has a corporate philosophy that states: ‘You can make money without being evil.’

Google may not be evil, but I think it is perhaps the worst corporate citizen I know.

Its whole attitude is one of overwhelming arrogance, typical of the megalomania that accompanies a business possessing an unbearable monopoly.

Let me give you one huge example. Google has paid just 2.4 per cent corporation taxes on its overseas earnings of £7.2 billion since 2007, according to Business Week.

It exploits tax havens such as Bermuda to legally avoid taxation. In Britain, easily its second-largest market, in the past three years it has generated approximately £5.7 billion in revenues.

The vast majority of those revenues will be profit – net margins are likely to be well above 30 per cent – because its true cost of sales is so low.

But that is not what Google reported in its company statements.

Effectively, Google invests negligible amounts in Britain, pays negligible amounts of tax on its underlying surplus to contribute to civil society, and yet extracts vast sums in advertising revenues.

The tragedy is that those advertising revenues siphoned off to California should be
used to help fund high-quality content – TV programmes, radio shows, newspaper and magazine articles.

But now commercial tele¬vision and radio stations, as well as the print media, are seeing their economic model threatened by Google, whose search engine dominates web advertising.

Essentially, Google pays for no content whatsoever, but parasitically lives off the back of all those organisations that actually commission writers, actors, directors, producers to make original material.

All those film-makers, journalists and others who are being thrown out of work can blame Google: they have ransacked the UK media industry, and are not even paying reasonable levels of tax on their usurious gains.

Britain punches way above its weight in the entertainment and culture industries – but
we are also easily the biggest loser from Google’s assault, since none of the cash it extracts is recycled in any serious way in creative content.

Google is, I believe, profoundly unethical in other ways. Its philosophy over its invasions of privacy, such as Street View, its insistence on taking pictures of every street in Britain and posting them on the web – is monstrous.

Eric Schmidt, its chairman and CEO, appears to feel he is on a mission from God in trying to obtain almost unlimited amounts of private information from ordinary citizens.

He has said: ‘If you have something that you don’t want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn’t be doing it in the first place.’

Another of his recent remarks is: ‘Google policy is to get up to the creepy line and not cross it.’

Anyone who uses any Google services such as Gmail and its search engine should be aware that they store data derived from your use for years.

Gmail’s software even reads your private emails so that Google can bombard you with advertisements that match your interests.

An extraordinary article appeared in the Daily Telegraph on November 3. The column said little, but the authorship was revealing.

It was jointly written by George Osborne, Chancellor of the Exchequer, and Eric Schmidt.

It suggested there was a cosy relationship between the two, and that our Government greatly admires Google.

Given how little corporation tax Google pays in Britain, given how its profits directly damage the competitiveness of our creative industries, given how it flouts privacy and copyright concerns, I thought it was a deeply misjudged alignment.

Cynically, I wonder if this puff piece had anything to do with the fact that Steve Hilton, eminence grise of the Tory high command, is married to Rachel Whetstone, vice-president, public policy and com¬munications at Google.

Others in public office are less impressed. I am delighted to see the European Commission is undertaking an anti-trust inquiry into possible abuse by Google of its 80 per cent share of the European online search market.

Just as Rockefeller’s Standard Oil was an oppressive enterprise that became so powerful it had to be broken up for the public good – so I believe Google must be seriously tackled in the national interest.



46  Science & Technology / EPA / Fake Environmentalism / Green Energy Scam / [Govt Cover Up] The ineffectiveness of wind farms on: January 09, 2011, 03:35:57 am
Govt Cover Up - The ineffectiveness of wind farms

Customers face huge bill for wind farms that don't work in the cold

By Tom Mcghie
Last updated at 1:20 AM on 9th January 2011



The failure of Britain’s wind farms to produce electricity in the extreme cold will cost billions of pounds, create an economic crisis and lead to blackouts, leading industrialists have warned.

To cover up the ineffectiveness of wind farms the Government will be forced to build emergency back-up power plants, the cost of which will be paid by industry and consumers.

Jeremy Nicholson, director of the Energy Intensive Users Group, which represents major companies employing hundreds of thousands of workers in the steel, glass, pottery, paper and chemical industries, said the failure of wind power had profound implications.


Flawed: To cover up the ineffectiveness of wind farms the Government will be forced to build emergency back-up power plants, the cost of which will be paid by industry and consumers

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1345439/Customers-face-huge-wind-farms-dont-work-cold.html#ixzz1AWs49Y7y



He was speaking after new figures showed that during the latest cold snap wind turbines produced less than two per cent of the nation’s electricity.

Now Mr Nicholson predicts that the Government will encourage power companies to build billions of pounds worth of standby power stations in case of further prolonged wind failures.Last updated at 1:20 AM on 9th January 2011

And the cost of the standby generation will be paid for by industry and households through higher bills – which could double by 2020.

Industry regulator Ofgem has already calculated that the cost of achieving sustainable energy targets – set by Brussels but backed by the British Government – will amount to £200 billion, which will mean that annual household fuel bills will double to about  £2,400 on average within the next ten years.

In the last quarter ending December 23, wind turbines produced on average 8.6 per cent of our electricity, but the moment the latest bad weather arrived with snow and freezing temperatures, this figure fell to as low as 1.8 per cent.

The slack was immediately taken up by efficient, but dirty, coal-fired power stations and oil-fired plants.

‘What is so worrying is that these sort of figures are not a one off,’ said Mr Nicholson. ‘It was exactly the same last January and February when high pressure brought freezing cold temperatures, snow and no wind.’

In fact last year, the failure of wind power to produce electricity was even more profound.

Then, over a few days, the lack of wind meant that only 0.2 per cent of a possible five per cent of the UK’s energy was generated by wind turbines.

So little energy was generated then that the National Grid, which is responsible for balancing supply and demand of energy in the UK, was forced to ask its biggest users – industry – to ration supplies.



What really concerns industrial users is that it is Government policy to put wind power at the centre of its efforts to ensure that 30 per cent of electricity is generated by renewable resources by 2020.

This means that the number of turbines now running – 3,140 – will have to be massively increased to well over 6,000 in ten years time.

But this huge surge in wind farm activity will come at the same time as an EU Directive will insist that we close down our coal-fired and oil-fired power stations.

Mr Nicholson said: ‘We can cope at the moment because there is still not that much power generated from wind. But all this will change. What happens when we are dependent on wind turbines for 30 per cent of our power and there is suddenly a period when the wind does not blow and there is high demand?

‘We will be forced to switch off the gas and it could even lead to power cuts.’
The Government is aware of the dangers of relying on intermittent power sources and is working on plans to encourage energy companies through financial inducements to have stand-by generation.

Mr Nicholson said: ‘At least the Government is aware of the problem, but it will cost billions to put these measures in place and we will have to pick up the tab.

A Department of Energy and Climate Change spokesman said: ‘Wind power provides a home-grown source of electricity that doesn’t produce carbon dioxide.

‘The electricity system always has more generating capacity available than the expected demand. By having a diverse energy mix, we can manage the fact that some technologies are intermittent.’

The National Grid is also aware of the problem and has set up a team to look at solving the problem of erratic energy supplies.

One of the solutions being considered is changing demand at times of crisis. For example, setting up systems to stop electricity supplies to millions of fridges for an hour or so.

This would be possible by having ‘smart’ meters and would save massive amounts of energy.



47  General / General Discussion / Dead Body delivered on Madonna's doorstep on: January 09, 2011, 03:22:52 am
Dead Body on Madonna's doorstep

'Thief' fights for his life after plunging six floors... and landing on Madonna's doorstep

By James Millbank and Stephanie Darrall
Last updated at 8:57 AM on 9th January 2011


A suspected thief was critically ill in hospital last night after plunging 100ft from a block of flats and landing by the back door of Madonna’s £10million home.

The man had been trying to escape police when he burst into the block next to the singer’s London mews home.

He rushed up to the sixth floor and tried to climb out of a window and shimmy down a drainpipe.

But he lost his grip and fell into a communal parking area just a few feet from Madonna’s door.

Undercover police officers had chased the man for about a quarter of a mile before he reached the flats.

They were in the block’s basement when he fell, as they thought that was where he was hiding.

Madonna, 52, is in London with her new boyfriend, dancer Brahim Zaibat, 24, but it is unclear whether she was at her Marylebone home during the drama on Friday afternoon.

After the man fell, one of her security guards came out of the property to see what had happened.

The man, in his 30s and believed to be from Eastern Europe, was said to be in a critical condition at a Central London hospital last night.

The Metropolitan Police have referred the case to the Independent Police Complaints Commission.

It is believed that the IPCC will ask to use footage from Madonna’s CCTV cameras, as they are thought to have captured the horror on film.

The chase started when the man allegedly carried out a theft in Edgware Road, Central London.

A witness said: ‘This man came running past Madonna’s house while being chased by plain-clothed police.

‘He was desperate and suddenly burst into the property next to hers, a block of flats.

‘He ran inside and appeared to have blocked the door while the police were banging, trying to gain entry.

‘After a few minutes he then appeared out of a window on the sixth floor and tried to shimmy down the drainpipe but lost his grip and fell to the pavement.

‘He landed a few feet from Madonna’s door and her security man came out to see what was going on.

‘Police immediately attended to the man who fell but he was in a very bad condition.'

The head porter at the flats said: ‘There were two staff on duty when a man came in through the front door to reception and asked to use the loo.

‘One member of staff told him that we didn’t have public loos. As she was speaking to him, a policeman came to the door.

‘She turned to start speaking to the policeman and the man ran off further into the building.

‘We do not have CCTV in the area leading to the flats so the police were unsure where he ran to.

‘They went into the basement, where they thought he had gone, but he had run up to the sixth floor.

It is thought that he pushed past a builder who was carrying out refurbishment in one of the sixth-floor flats and gained entry to it that way.

He then tried to climb down a drainpipe that went past the window but he fell.’

Police cordoned off the area by Madonna’s home, with forensic officers wearing white overalls and masks working there throughout the night.

A white scene-of-crime tent was placed over the spot where the man fell and powerful security lights from Madonna’s property were used to illuminate the area for officers.

Madonna’s head of security said: ‘We have given the police everything they need. I can’t say if it was CCTV film.

‘I also can’t say if Madonna was here at the time of the accident.’

A Scotland Yard spokesman said: ‘Shortly before the man fell from the building, officers were pursuing a man who had entered the same building.

‘The Directorate of Professional Standards has been informed and the matter has been referred to the Independent Police Complaints Commission.’

A spokesman for Madonna refused to comment.

48  The Wall / Off Topic / Whining / Witch Tax on: January 09, 2011, 03:08:11 am
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/48828/

The Romanian govt placed a first-ever tax on witches, fortune tellers, and astrologers, according to the Associated Press and the BBC on Thursday.
49  General / Survivalist Forum / Re: Survival Database Downloads on: January 09, 2011, 03:05:34 am
 Grin
50  Multimedia Center / The Alex Jones Show / Re: ON TODAY'S SHOW: Live/Refeed, Guests, Topics & MP3 Archives (2011) on: January 07, 2011, 05:42:45 pm
Today is Friday, January 7th, 2011


Charlotte
          Alex welcomes back to the show whistleblower Charlotte Iserbyt who served as Senior Policy Advisor in the Office of Educational Research and Improvement, U.S. Department of Education, during the first Reagan Administration. Iserbyt is the author of The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America, a chronological history of the past 100+ years of education reform. The book argues that the academic meltdown in our public education system is intentional.

 Alex also talks with regular Friday guest, Bob Chapman of the International Forecaster. Alex also covers the latest breaking news and takes your call.

Download the MP3 Audio Archive
http://rss.infowars.com/20110107_Fri_Alex.mp3

51  Multimedia Center / The Alex Jones Show / Re: ON TODAY'S SHOW: Live/Refeed, Guests, Topics & MP3 Archives (2011) on: January 06, 2011, 11:02:46 am
Today is Thursday, January 6th, 2011


Allan Watt
          Alex welcomes back to the show Alan Watt, a long-term researcher on the New World Order and into the causative forces behind major changes in historical development. With historical documentation, he shows how cultures are created and altered by those in control, always to lead the people like sheep into the next pasture.

Alex also talks with meteorologist and astrophysicist Piers Corbyn. He is the owner of Weather Action which makes weather forecasts up to a year in advance. Corbyn is well-known for his opposition to the idea of anthropogenic global warming.

Alex also covers the latest news and takes your calls.

Download the MP3 Audio Archive
http://rss.infowars.com/20110106_Thu_Alex.mp3
52  General / General Discussion / Re: Hey Slaves, You Cannot Live on Your Own Land and Stay Off Our Control Grid! on: December 21, 2010, 01:29:14 am
I'd point sanity limits on any individual's right to wealth.

NO - that does not make me a communist, it simply means that I don't think anyone should be a Billionaire or own 100,000's of acres of land. I've not got anything against people getting lucky, but there must be some limits ? - Limits that would prevent a mega-elite of super rich people.

A system which means that NoBody gets to own their own land is not satisfactory.



53  General / General Discussion / Re: DO YOU KNOW WHO JAVIER SOLANA IS ? on: December 21, 2010, 01:20:23 am
Interesting notion.

I'd say the anti-christ is described as a person, as the events described must happen to an individual

The Failed Assination attempt
The rejection of Women for sex

Come to mind as examples. You can find whole lists of all his attributes online, and many can only make sense if applied to an individual.
54  General / General Discussion / Re: Ghost Towns of China - 64 Million empty - Explain ? on: December 21, 2010, 01:16:07 am
Thats homes for 200 million people...

55  General / General Discussion / Re: Hey Slaves, You Cannot Live on Your Own Land and Stay Off Our Control Grid! on: December 19, 2010, 08:30:33 am
We have been robbed.

The fact that we do not really own any land is the legal basis of a good chunk of our problems.
56  General / General Discussion / Ghost Towns of China - 64 Million empty - Explain ? on: December 19, 2010, 03:56:23 am
The ghost towns of China:
 Amazing satellite images show cities meant to be home to millions lying deserted


By DAILY MAIL REPORTER
 Last updated at 10:53 AM on 18th December 2010


These amazing satellite images show sprawling cities built in remote parts of China that have been left completely abandoned, sometimes years after their construction.

Elaborate public buildings and open spaces are completely unused, with the exception of a few government vehicles near communist authority offices.

Some estimates put the number of empty homes at as many as 64 million, with up to 20 new cities being built every year in the country's vast swathes of free land.

See the many Satellite Photos



READ ENTIRE ARTICLE
57  Multimedia Center / Alex Jones Show Archives / Re: ON TODAY'S SHOW: Live/Refeed, Guests, Topics & MP3 Archives (2010) on: December 17, 2010, 11:01:26 am
Today is Friday, December 17th, 2010


Jesse Ventura
          Alex talks with Jesse Ventura, the former Minnesota governor, Navy veteran, actor, and host of the popular TruTV series, Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura. Jesse talks with Alex about the latest episode of his show, set to air today, covering 9/11 and the Pentagon. Ventura invited representatives of Pilots For 9/11 Truth to discuss the attack.

 Alex also talks with regular Friday guest, Bob Chapman of the International Forecaster about the economy and other related topics.

Alex covers the latest breaking news and takes your calls.

Download the MP3 Audio
http://rss.infowars.com/20101217_Fri_Alex.mp3
58  General / The New World Order / Bones of Cecil Rhodes are an insult to our ancestors on: December 16, 2010, 04:06:04 am
Bones of Cecil Rhodes are an insult to our ancestors:
Zimbabwe official demands remains are exhumed and sent back to Britain


By STEWART MACLEAN
 Last updated at 3:25 PM on 15th December 2010


A Zimbabwean politician has demanded the body of Cecil Rhodes is exhumed and sent back to Britain as it is an insult to the country's citizens.

Rhodesia, founded by and named for Rhodes, became the Republic of Zimbabwe in 1980.

Bulawayo governor Cain Mathema said it was offensive that the Oxford-educated former mining magnate was still buried on Zimbabwean soil three decades after the country was granted independence from Britain.

Rhodes was laid to rest in 1902 in territory then belonging to the young country of Rhodesia which he had founded just seven years earlier in his own name.

But Mr Mathema, a member of president Robert Mugabe's ruling Zanu-PF party, said Zimbabweans should feel insulted by the presence of the tycoon's grave in their soil.



In comments reported by the country's Sunday News, he said: 'I wonder why 30 years after independence Rhodes' grave is still found on the country's traditional shrine of worship.

'It's an insult to our ancestors and maybe that is the reason why our ancestors at Njelele, where we pray for rain, are no longer giving us enough rain.

'My call is not directed against Britain or whites, but against symbols that persecuted our people and took away our freedom and wealth.

'For I believe that physical freedom goes hand-in-hand with psychological freedom. We need to celebrate our own heroes and heroines.

'We do not get inspiration from the likes of Rhodes, so why should we visit their graves and their statues?'

Rhodes, who was born in Bishop's Stortford in Hertfordshire, became one of Britain's most successful colonialists after being sent to southern Africa in the late nineteenth century when he suffered bad health as a teenager.



Within four decades he had established political control of Britain's Cape Colony, expanded the territory north to found Rhodesia and taken ownership of the world's richest diamond mining company De Beers. His expansionist plans were fired by a dream of securing a British corridor of power stretching from Cape Town to Cairo.

But his short life was blighted by bad health and he was buried amid great fanfare after his death of heart failure aged just 49.

Following his demise Rhodes' remains were transported by train from Cape Town to Bulawayo and laid to rest in the Matopo Hills south of the city, his favourite spot in the vast empire he had helped secure for Britain in southern Africa.

The life-long bachelor had lived alone in Cape Town and was always dogged by rumours about his sexuality. And last week Mr Mathema said the possibility the tycoon had been gay was a further insult to the sensibilities of those in Zimbabwe, where Zanu-PF officials have remained outspoken critics of homosexuality.



The governor said Rhodes' grave should now be removed from Zimbabwean soil as part of an effort to strip the former colony of symbols of its former rulers.

He added that similar action should be taken against a statue of the great Scottish explorer David Livingstone which stands at Victoria Falls.

The landmark was erected by Rhodesia's rulers in 1954 in memory to the nineteenth century missionary who helped drive forward the conquest of Africa's inner lands.

In 2001 the statue was targeted by Zimbabwean war veterans protesting against the former colonial powers. Despite the attack the landmark remains in position in the tourist town built beside the famous Zambezi river waterfalls.

However last week Mr Mathema said the country could not earn 'true freedom' until all symbols of colonial oppression had been removed.

Mr Mathema said: 'All over the country, you find schools named after colonialists, statues erected to celebrate colonialism. I am struck and baffled by the attitude of our people to continually embrace a bygone system that worked tirelessly to thwart their energy and aspirations.

'The total liberation of Zimbabwe is not complete as long as the country continues to live on the legacy of our former masters. As long as the names remain, as long as the scar of Rhodes' grave remains, it is not the psychological colonisation question alone that remains open, but the question of true freedom.

'I will tell that personally I hate all colonial names, as I said before I am not a racist but I hate all people who oppress and intimidate others.' 

Mr Mathema declined to comment on what he believed should happen to Rhodes' body if it was to be exhumed.

The tycoon's grave currently lies amid the Matopo National Park, where it is visited by thousands of tourists every year.

59  The War Room / Genocide / Torture / War Crimes / Kosovo's PM - 'mafia boss who stole human organs from Serb prisoners' on: December 16, 2010, 04:00:11 am
Kosovo's prime minister was 'a mafia boss who stole human organs from Serb prisoners and sold them for profit'

By DAILY MAIL REPORTER
Last updated at 8:56 AM on 16th December 2010


He was all smiles a few months ago as he honoured Tony Blair for helping to liberate his country.
But yesterday Kosovo’s prime minister was sensationally named as the boss of a brutal mafia network that allegedly specialised in butchering enemies for their kidneys.

He strongly denies the allegations.

In a bombshell report Hashim Thaci was described as ‘the most dangerous’ of organised crime leaders who engaged in assassinations, beatings, drug smuggling and a weapons racket.
Most macabre are testimonies alleging how his mafia network harvested human organs from kidnapped prisoners, who pleaded not to be ‘chopped into pieces’ before they were shot dead by henchmen.

Their kidneys and other organs were removed and sold in a deal with an Albanian clinic.

The claims about the country’s premier come as a slap in the face to those who supported Britain’s efforts to free Kosovo and help its rebel leaders to power.

Yesterday the allegations against Mr Thaci – pictured many times alongside Mr Blair – were laid bare in a devastating Council of Europe report.

Damningly, the report accuses Western governments of complicity, saying European leaders knew about, but chose to ignore, Thaci’s alleged brutality.

Thaci was nicknamed ‘The Snake’ when he was a guerrilla leader in the Kosovo Liberation Army, which fought the Serbs.

After Mr Blair helped to push the Serbs from Kosovo in 1999 under aerial bombardment, Thaci rose to power. Only last Sunday, he was re-elected as prime minister.

But Dick Marty, the Swiss senator who wrote the report, said he felt ‘moral outrage’ as he allegedly discovered how Thaci’s ‘Drenica Group’, a faction of the KLA, was implicated in harvesting human organs.

He claimed captives were held in a secret network of six detention facilities in lawless northern Albania, near its border with Kosovo. In one case, a ‘handful’ of men were held in a farmhouse in the town of Fushe-Kruje.

The report states: ‘As and when the transplant surgeons were confirmed to be in position and ready to operate, the captives were brought out of the “safe house” individually, summarily executed by a KLA gunman, and their corpses transported to the operating clinic.’

‘At least some of these captives became aware of the fate that awaited them. Some are said to have pleaded with their captors to be spared the fate of being “chopped into pieces”.’
 
Some victims were allowed to live, minus their robbed organs.

The sinister portrait of Thaci painted by the report bears little resemblance to the man who greeted Mr Blair as an old friend when Britain’s former prime minister was honoured during a visit to Pristina in July.

Fluttering Union Flags heralded Mr Blair’s arrival in one of the few countries where he is proclaimed on posters as a ‘leader, friend and hero’. He was joined by his wife Cherie,
 
Yesterday Thaci described Mr Marty’s report as baseless and defamatory.
 
‘The government of Kosovo and Hashim Thaci will undertake all the necessary steps to dismiss the slanders of Dick Marty, including legal and political means,’ a statement said.
60  Science & Technology / Tech Talk / Re: Stallman Warns Against Cloud Computing as Google Readies to Push ChromeOS on: December 14, 2010, 01:19:49 pm
I agree with Stallman.

Ever since I first heard the idea, I have been instantly opposed to handing over my precious data, and the control of that data to some anonymous 3rd party.

The people I've seen it appeal too, are all computer proffessionals, that are too incomptenet and slaves to windows, **** and games to figure out they don't need some slot on a shared box inside some cloud.

Its just renting a slice of shared hosting on somebodys server farm, if you strip away the hype.
61  Multimedia Center / Documentaries / Re: Track Me If You Can on: December 14, 2010, 12:23:22 pm
Part 6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPj8UjopIJo&feature=related
62  Multimedia Center / Documentaries / Re: Track Me If You Can on: December 14, 2010, 12:22:40 pm
Part 5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QruVH5WBTgc&feature=related
63  Multimedia Center / Documentaries / Re: Track Me If You Can on: December 14, 2010, 12:22:05 pm
Part 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IurKxjNqmqU&feature=related
64  Multimedia Center / Documentaries / Re: Track Me If You Can on: December 14, 2010, 12:21:31 pm
Part 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31Ja8zdXmiA&feature=related
65  Multimedia Center / Documentaries / Re: Track Me If You Can on: December 14, 2010, 12:20:58 pm
Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWMNgKLqb-w&feature=related
66  Multimedia Center / Documentaries / Track Me If You Can on: December 14, 2010, 12:19:59 pm
Track Me If You Can

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXkPU9NSfPQ
67  Mass Mind Control / Social Engineering / Compulsory Schooling / Re: Trouble at Millbank. 52K Volunteer students take London. on: December 12, 2010, 06:27:53 pm
I think something like 40 students got physicaly attacked and injured by the police.

Odd the tabloid press are not screaming about kiddies getting abused by violent men  Grin
68  General / Wikileaks operation and the concept of controlled opposition / Re: Wikileaks Julian Assange **** accuser is CIA Operative on: December 09, 2010, 06:58:28 pm
So many twists and turns in the plot its like "Lost"...

69  General / International News / Prince Charles + Camila ATTACKED ¬ ! on: December 09, 2010, 04:32:06 pm
Terrifying moment Charles and Camilla were surrounded by a baying mob and their car attacked in tuition fees riot

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1337088/TUITION-FEES-VOTE-PROTEST-Charles-Camillas-car-attacked-thousands-students-descend-Parliament.html

* Prince's limo paintballed on way to Palladium
* 20,000 students and activists lay siege to Westminster
* Protesters throw flares, smoke bombs and snooker balls
* Scotland Yard resort to 'kettling' in Parliament Square
* At least 22 arrests, including two for arson and four for burglary
* Fees increase is carried by 323 votes to 302 - majority of 21

This was the terrifying moment that a mob of anarchists attacked Prince Charles and Camilla's car outside the London Palladium tonight.

The couple were due to attend the Royal Variety Performance, which was taking place very close to the epicentre of a day of violent protest in Parliament Square, when it was swarmed by people supposedly protesting against the rise in student tuition fees.

Protesters had thrown paintbombs at police throughout a day of protests and the burgundy 1977 Rolls Royce Phantom VI was hit by an explosion of white paint on Prince Charles's side of the car. A window was smashed, two rear panels were dented and the aerial was broken.

Clarence House said that the couple were unharmed in the incident on Regent Street, but onlookers said Camilla looked extremely shaken after the attack.





ETC....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1337088/TUITION-FEES-VOTE-PROTEST-Charles-Camillas-car-attacked-thousands-students-descend-Parliament.html
70  Multimedia Center / Documentaries / Jesse Ventura - Conspiracy Theory on: December 03, 2010, 01:11:54 pm
As it was such a good episode, it is very popular on torrents. So, try as they might, the truth will continue spread as people get addicted to finding out the truth.


Torrents - Jesse Ventura

http://thepiratebay.org/search/Jesse%20Ventura/0/99/100,200


71  General / General Discussion / Re: Hey Slaves, You Cannot Live on Your Own Land and Stay Off Our Control Grid! on: December 03, 2010, 06:40:55 am
When I get my slice of land, I will assert allodial property rights...
72  General / Wikileaks operation and the concept of controlled opposition / Re: Wikileaks Julian Assange accuser is CIA Operative on: December 01, 2010, 05:25:14 pm
Read the documents

Download the complete set

As a regular ZIP file
As a regular Unix / Linux files

http://ukginger.net/WikiLeaks-CableGate.tar.gz
OR
http://ukginger.net/WikiLeaks-CableGate.tar.bz


PLEASE MIRROR !

The Original Wikileaks Set is 7-ZIP and you will need a tool to uncompress this less mainstream file format http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/static/cablegate-201011300718.7z see website for details on 7-ZIP http://www.7-zip.org/
73  The War Room / 9/11 Material & Research / EXISTENCE OF A COVERT URANIUM ENRICHMENT FACILITY IN IRAN on: December 01, 2010, 02:54:38 pm
UNCLASSIFIED   STATE   00100153
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UNCLAS SECTION 01 OF 02 STATE 100153
 
SENSITIVE
 
E.O. 12958: N/A
TAGS: IR KNNP MNUC PARM
SUBJECT: EXISTENCE OF A COVERT URANIUM ENRICHMENT
FACILITY IN IRAN
 
¶1.  (U) This is an action request.  Please see paragraph
3 for action.
 
¶2.  (SBU) BACKGROUND:  The United States is aware that
Iran has been secretly building another enrichment
facility, in addition to the one at Natanz.  Some other
governments are also in possession of similar
information.  The United States, France, and the United
Kingdom briefed the IAEA on Thursday, 24 September on
this facility.  The United States remains committed to a
diplomatic resolution of international concerns with
Iran's nuclear program.  These concerns are reinforced
by the existence of this facility.  Immediate,
unconditional cooperation by Iran with the IAEA is
essential to address these concerns and to ensure that a
diplomatic process has a chance to succeed.
 
¶3.  (U) ACTION REQUEST:  Posts are requested to inform
senior host government officials of the existence of a
covert uranium enrichment facility in Iran using the
points contained in paragraph 4.  Posts are NOT
authorized to provide a copy of the points.  Washington
understands that, in a previous iteration of this
message, a non-paper was authorized.  If points have
already been conveyed in writing, posts are instructed
to request discretion on the part of host government
interlocutors.  If asked about coincidental claims by an
Iranian exile group of previously unknown nuclear
weaponization sites, posts should convey the following,
IC-cleared point:
 
-- We do not believe that these other sites that you
refer to are the Qom enrichment site.  There are many
suspect sites, including these others, that we monitor.
 
¶4.  (U) BEGIN TALKING POINTS:
 
-- We have acquired substantial, specific information
that Iran has been secretly building another enrichment
facility ? in addition to Natanz.
 
-- The facility is located near the city of Qom, Iran,
and has been under construction for several years.  The
facility is located in an underground tunnel complex on
the grounds of an Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps
Base.
 
-- Earlier this year, we developed information that gave
us increased confidence that the facility was a uranium
enrichment site.
 
-- The site is under the management of the Atomic Energy
Organization of Iran, but unknown to all but the most
senior AEOI officials.
 
-- The site is intended to hold approximately 3000
centrifuges but we do not know what type of centrifuge
Iran intends to employ there.  We assess an enrichment
plant containing 3000 centrifuges is not adequate to
produce regular fuel reloads for civilian nuclear power
plants, which require a much larger number of
centrifuges.
 
-- Based on our understanding of the status of the
facility, we assess that Iran will not be able to begin
enriching uranium there before at least 2010.  Iran is
continuing construction of support buildings at the
facility.  Intelligence indicates that earlier this
year, Iran was installing the infrastructure required
for centrifuges.
 
-- Iran may claim that this facility is for civilian
nuclear fuel production.  The Iranian government
continues to claim that it is not pursuing a nuclear
weapon.  Yet this facility is too small to be viable for
production of fuel for a nuclear power reactor.  It may
be well-suited, however, for a military purpose.
 
-- We are aware that some other governments are in
possession of similar information.
 
-- We learned this week that Iran has sent the IAEA a
letter indicating that it is constructing a pilot fuel
enrichment facility and that the "required
infrastructure has been established."
 
-- The letter provides no details and states that
 
STATE 00100153  002 OF 002
 
 
"further complementary information will be provided in
an appropriate and due time." We assume this new
enrichment facility is the facility that we and other
governments have been tracking.
 
-- We, the UK and France have briefed the IAEA on the
information that they have so that they can fully
investigate the facility.  The President, with his UK
and French counterparts, plans to make an announcement
Friday morning in Pittsburgh.
 
-- We firmly believe that the existence of a new
centrifuge facility in Iran constitutes a serious
violation of Iran's international obligations.
 
-- Iran was required to suspend all uranium enrichment-
related activities in UN Security Council resolution
¶1737.  This legally-binding requirement has been
reaffirmed in three subsequent UNSC resolutions.
 
-- When Iran decided to build this facility, it was
obligated to declare this to the IAEA.  It failed to do
so.
 
-- What is clear is that Iran once again has engaged in
a deceit of the international community.   The President
made clear that we are serious about using diplomacy to
find a negotiated solution to the Iranian nuclear
program, but in order to do so, Iran needs to be
transparent and truthful.
 
-- It is now time for Iran to prove to the international
community that it is willing to play by the rules.   We
urge your public support on this matter as we head into
the October 1 meeting with Iran.
 
-- It will particularly important that Iran understand
that it must end the pattern of deception and once and
for all commit itself to full transparency.   It is time
for Iran to come clean on the questions about its
weaponization studies and to implement the Additional
Protocol.
 
-- The Ministers of the P5+1 held a productive meeting
on the margins of the UN General Assembly.  They stated
their expectation that Iran will be prepared to take
constructive steps when it meets with the P5+1 on
October 1st.  In light of this new and troubling
information, the burden is clearly on Iran to prove the
exclusively peaceful nature of its nuclear program.  It
is essential that Iran accept that the process in Geneva
must be real an address their nuclear program.  We are
prepared to engage in a real process but will not be a
party to a phony one.
 
-- We hope that we can count on your public support for
holding Iran to its international obligations.
 
END TALKING POINTS
 
¶5.  (U) Posts are requested to report any substantive
responses.  Richard Nephew (ISN/RA, 202-647-7680,
NephewRM@state.sgov.gov) is the Department's POC for
this cable.
 
¶6.  (U) MINIMIZE CONSIDERED.
CLINTON
74  The War Room / 9/11 Material & Research / The "Underwear" Bomber - US Embassy Report on: December 01, 2010, 02:48:31 pm
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STATE FOR INR/R/MR, EUR/PAPD, EUR/PPA, EUR/CE, INR/EUC, INR/P,
SECDEF FOR USDP/ISA/DSAA, DIA FOR DC-4A
 
VIENNA FOR CSBM, CSCE, PAA
 
"PERISHABLE INFORMATION -- DO NOT SERVICE"
 
SIPDIS
 
E.0. 12958: N/A
TAGS: OPRC KMDR KGHG US IR CH US
SUBJECT: MEDIA REACTION: TERRORISM, IRAN, CHINA, U.S.;BERLIN
 
¶1.    Lead Stories Summary
¶2.   (U.S.)   Failed Terrorist Attack
¶3.   (Iran)   New Protestsn4
¶4.   (China)   Reaction to Jailing of Liu Xiabo
¶5.   (U.S.)   Healthcare Reform
 
 
¶1.   Lead Stories Summary
 
The majority of dailies opened with reports on the failed terror
attack on a Delta Airlines jet, while Sueddeutsche headlined:
"Protests Intensify - Riots in Iran" and FAZ led with the headline:
 
"People Killed in Demonstrations in Iran."  Editorials focused on
the
failed terror attack in the U.S., with the unrest in Iran and with
the
state of the coalition government in Berlin.  ZDF-TV's early evening
 
newscast heute and ARD-TV's early evening newscast Tagesschau opened
 
with a report on violent clashes between the Iranian regime and
opponents.
 
¶2.   (U.S.)   Failed Terrorist Attack
 
All papers carry extensive reports the failed terrorist attack on a
 
Delta Airlines airliners and reported that travelers flying to the
United States must expect heightened security measures and tougher
restrictions on their flights to the United States.  Die Welt
headlined: "Terror Attempt Stirring up fear of Terror," while
Financial Times headlined: "Fear of Terror is Back."
 
In a front-page editorial, Die Welt (12/28) judged: "The fact that
the
would-be attacker was able to board a plane with his dangerous
material reveals gaps in the control system.  With metal detectors
alone chemical explosives cannot be discovered."
 
Under the headline: "Flight 253," Frankfurter Allgemeine (12/28)
opined: "If someone really had believed that we have transnational
terror under control, and that we can give an all-clear signal with
 
respect to security, then those people have now been taught better.
 
Irrespective of whether the attacker acted on his own or on the
instructions of al-Qaida, the danger is not over and that is why
travelers, not only to the Untied States, must accept new
inconveniences which are hopefully useful."
 
"Following the terror attempt in Detroit, the usual security debate
 
will now begin," Frankfurter Rundschau (12/28) noted, and added:
"controls will be heightened, and agencies are trying to get us to
do
everything possible to prevent another attack.  This failed terror
attempt shows how unpredictable people can be who stop at nothing.
 
For the time being, there is only one lesson we can learn from the
events on Flight 253: It is the courageous effort of Jasper
Schuringa
who prevented even worse events.  The unexpected resolve of
individuals can be the right answer to the threat that comes out of
 
the blue."
 
In the view of Stuttgarter Zeitung (12/28), "Abdulmutallab was miles
 
 
BERLIN 00001626  002 OF 005
 
 
away from the organizational level of the 9/11 attackers.  But the
Nigerian national succeeded in one thing:  he totally unnerved the
western world, and the terror fighting machinery of the United
States
in particular.  Even though the U.S. government knew about the
danger
of the young man, he was able to fly around the world without
difficulty.  Almost without any problems, he was able to smuggle
dangerous substances aboard an aircraft.  But what if he really had
 
the order from al-Qaida in Yemen to blow up the plane?  How does
this
view then fit the U.S. focus on Afghanistan?  Is Yemen, too, a front
 
in the anti-terror war?  Many question, but only a few answers."
 
Regional daily Nrnberger Nachrichten (12/28) and regional daily
Trierischer Volksfreund (12/28) judged: "How was it possible for a
young man to get aboard with a one-way ticket and an Arabic sounding
 
name, whose contacts with Islamic extremists were known and whose
father even warned the U.S. embassy?  The lists of passengers
travelling to the United States are transferred in advance to the
U.S.
Homeland Security Department with all its data bases.  But again we
 
see a big hole in the net that is supposed to capture potential
terrorists.  Of course, one hundred percent security will never
exist,
but these gaps are dramatic and should be an alarm call which
politicians should not ignore."
 
Mannheimer Morgen (12/28) warned against hysteria and judged: "Each
 
day terror investigators receive hundreds of tips and indications.
 
How is it then possible to follow a vague suspicion?  We should not
 
exaggerate security measures for flights.  The fact that in the
United
States no one is allowed to go to the bathroom one hour before
landing
is ridiculous.  The same is true for the ban on liquids in Europe.
 
Here there is a clear disproportion between cost and benefit."
MQrkische Allgemeine of Potsdam (12/28) opined: "If airlines, as a
reaction to the failed attempt, force their passengers to remain
seated one hour before landing, then this is no more than a gesture
of
helplessness.  The second much more important aspect may be
dissatisfying at the moment, but there is no way around it: Muslims
 
must preach again and again in their own ranks that terror is not
the
culmination of piety but a crime.  Any incident like this should
stress to the Muslim world how urgent this message is."
 
Regional daily Westdeutsche Zeitung of Dsseldorf (12/28) observed:
 
"Hectic measure such as barring passengers from getting up should
not
prevail in the long run.  In the future, there will be no way around
 
finding the right balance between possible improvements of our
security standards compared to the trouble caused by
them."SchwarzwQlder Bote (12/28) noted: "Everything we have learned
 
about this attack does not strengthen our confidence in
international
 
BERLIN 00001626  003 OF 005
 
 
security measures.  It is certainly right that there cannot be
absolute security from mean terrorist attacks but this does not the
 
least excuse the gaps in anti-terror measures.
 
¶3.   (Iran)   New Protests
 
All papers carry extensive coverage of the new clashes between the
regime and opposition forces in Iran.   Sueddeutsche headlined:
"Protests Intensify - Riots in Iran" and FAZ led with the headline:
 
"People Killed in Demonstrations in Iran."  Frankfurter Rundschau
reported on its front page: "The protests are directed against
Iranian
President Ahmadinejad."  The paper also reported that "according to
 
reports from Tehran, police officers partly disobeyed orders to use
 
their guns against the protesters.  The Internet page "Jaras," which
 
is critical of the government, reported that 'some [police officers]
 
tried to fire their guns in the air when their superiors put
pressure
on them.'"
 
Sueddeutsche Zeitung (12/28) said in an editorial under the
headline:
"There is Growing Unrest among the People" that "if the information
 
fragments from Tehran on the demonstrations during the Ashura
holidays
allow one conclusion, then this one: the rank and file of the
protests
are now overtaking their leaders.  Posters of religious leader Ali
Khamenei and the chorus of demonstrators who want to see the
dictator
dead do not correspond with the slogans of the two opposition
leaders
Moussawi and Charrubi.  They are now faced with a dilemma:  If they
 
stick to their view that they, in principle, recognize the
institutions of the Islamic republic and want to use the courts to
make their political opposition heard, then it could be that their
followers will leave them because many want something else: regime
change."
 
Regional daily Suedwest Presse of Ulm (12/28) editorialized: "The
regime is using all its might to extinguish the massive protests.
The
few Internet reports in any case show the brutality of the leading
clique around President Ahmadinejad.  In the meantime, the regime
has
its back to the wall.  The protests are no longer confined to Tehran
 
but are spreading to other cities....  The government can no longer
 
afford the good deeds with which it bought the loyalty of Iranians.
 
All this is really worrying for the international community of
nations."
 
Ostsee Zeitung of Rostock (12/28) argued: "Despite jammed cellular
phone networks and despite blocked access to the Internet, the
unrest
in Iran hardly seems to be stoppable.  The resistance is still
limited
to a well-educated cosmopolitan, young, urban middle class.  Large
sectors of the population, however, seem to keep quiet or seem to
 
BERLIN 00001626  004 OF 005
 
 
support the regime.  But the cyber revolt in Tehran has demonstrated
 
that the mullahs no longer enjoy a monolithic power."
 
Regional daily Dresdner Neueste Nachrichten (12/28) opined: "Since
the
allegedly manipulated re-election of President Ahmadinejad, a state
of
emergency has dominated in Iran.  But this is not only the struggle
of
a limited political protest movement against the president and the
ayatollahs behind him.  The country is now facing an endurance test.
 
At issue is whether the country wants to become a fundamental
religious state or an Islamic republic.   The pictures from Iran are
 
shocking.  It is the violence on both sides that makes us fear the
worst."
 
¶4.   (China)   Reaction to Jailing of Liu Xiabo
 
Frankfurter Allgemeine (12/28) editorialized under the headline:
"Co-
Responsibility," that foreign countries must also be blamed that a
man
like Liu Xiabo is jailed with such an absurdly high prison term.
The
foreign countries have treated China for economic considerations
with
political kid gloves for years.  We can't blame China under these
circumstances because we think that it is unassailable?  A positive
 
reaction to any criticism of the verdict cannot be expected."
 
Sueddeutsche Zeitung (12/28) said in an editorial: "A subtle but
clearly visible trend is getting hold in China.  Civil disobedience
 
among the rank and file is spreading.  It is an irony that this tend
 
has become visible in the tough verdict against Liu Xiabo.  In front
 
of the court in which China's leadership organized the show trial,
we
could not only see international reporters and diplomats, but
Chinese
supporters of Liu shouted slogans and unrolled posters thus
deliberately risking their arrest.  Only a few courageous people
went
to the court, but they showed that intimidation no longer works as
successfully as in the past.  This new trend is not only confined to
 
the traditional political protest.  Courageous lawyers of the
Weiquan
civil rights movement are defending victims of the arbitrariness of
 
state agencies and they defend each other, too.  And the number of
peaceful and violent civil protests is on the rise.  But the Chinese
 
Communist Party fails miserably when it comes to channeling
communication with its critics into a constructive direction.  The
verdict against Liu Xiabo is one more example.  It will only
partially
obtain the desired effect but not intimidate the people.  At the
same
time, new embitterment, new disobedience is growing.  With each show
 
trial, the party is now doing of what it is accusing Liu: it
undermines the state's authority."
 
 
BERLIN 00001626  005 OF 005
 
 
¶5.   (U.S.)   Healthcare Reform
 
Under the headline: "Reform Blues," Sueddeutsche Zeitung (12/28) had
 
this to say: "There is no doubt that the healthcare reform bill that
 
has now been adopted in the Senate is a great work...and
trailblazing.
But enthusiasm about the success is limited.  One reason is that the
 
legislative process is so tiresome; but there is an even more
important reason: disappointment and doubts are spreading.  The
advocates of the reform have been brought down to earth again
because
they were able to implement only a few of their demands.   Thus far,
 
the Democrats have lost the fight for public opinion.  They will
have
to do quite a lot in the election campaign in 2010 to avoid being
punished for a reasonable reform."
 
Die Welt (12/28) argued: "The Democrats will now have difficulty
explaining to their irritated voters why it is historic progress
that
31 million compatriots who have no coverage today will get health
insurance, and that health insurance companies can no longer reject
 
sick Americans or demand astronomically high premiums.  This reform
is
supposed to carry itself and not burden the budget.  But the
opponents
to the bill do not believe a word, arguing that the nation will go
bankrupt.  This is a highly imperfect, weakened bill and, at the
same
time, a giant step forward into an American future in which job loss
 
no longer means the end of insurance protection for a former
employee
and their whole family."
 
75  General / Wikileaks operation and the concept of controlled opposition / Re: Wikileaks Julian Assange accuser is CIA Operative on: December 01, 2010, 05:57:38 am
Now they have issued an international interpol warrant...

And I'm fed up with just about every interest group making conflicting claims as to what is contained in the WikiLeaks Documents . . .

Please consider actually reading some of the docs instead of speculation.
76  General / General Discussion / Google is Evil [GoogleBomb] on: November 30, 2010, 11:47:56 am
Google Is Evil
black list prisonplanet.com
black list infowars.com
77  The Wall / Personal Beliefs / Bible Thumping / Atheism / Re: Rapture DEBUNKED on: November 29, 2010, 01:01:56 pm
The Rapture Exposed
the Message of Hope in the Book of Revelation

by :
Barbara R Rossing



The Rapture Exposed the Message of Hope in the Book of Revelation by Barbara R Rossing - Outstanding Study ...
78  General / Introductions / Re: Just found this site on: November 29, 2010, 03:31:44 am
Thanks guys, glad to be on board!

Good to have you signed up and active.
79  General / Introductions / Re: Hey, OI, why did no one tell me about this? on: November 29, 2010, 03:31:13 am
And be sure to ask them to introduce themselves
so i can give them a "proper welcome" !

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Amazon

Even I will be nice to the newbies !
 Roll Eyes
80  General / Introductions / Re: Hey Guys! on: November 29, 2010, 03:30:28 am
You should check out the ingredients list for a proper curry, its like a whos who of stiff to keep ya healthy.

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