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801  General / Ridiculous News / Oddball Stuff / P2P network LIMEWIRE shutdown indefinitely by Big Music and Big US Government on: October 27, 2010, 03:53:46 am
Amiable and accessible P2P File sharing network LIMEWIRE received an injunction from the US District Court of New York Yesterday 26 Oct. The order tells that Limewire have agreed to cease all file sharing facilities, no doubt under threat of huge fines from the big 6 as used to be known the conglomerate of all the major record labels including Sony, BMG, Alektra, Motown, Warner Bros and Atlantic records unless they cease and desist immediately.
802  General / Art / Satire / Cartoons / Parodies / Benefit Thieves = Dirty Thieving Swine on: October 26, 2010, 03:37:49 am

803  The Wall / Music / Leisure Activities / Fun & Games / Re: MY Halloween Story: Anyone Care to Comment? on: October 24, 2010, 03:05:25 pm

Could I ask you: Why are you going after me so hard?  (And thanks for getting people to read my lame little story!)

It could be something to do with the disease that comes in the form of people's main occupation being to gather information on other posters and then to pass that on as gossip .... "Oh he's mad, he believes in ..."

Let's be honest, why don't the instigators of slander, rumour, meaningless opinion and gossip just come out in public and say what they can only admit behind closed doors or on the phone or in PM's. The rumour mill that is created is not unlike 'what they don't know, they make up' small town phenomenon and shows a certain catholic upbringing in some people who commonly invest themselves with certain positions of authority, because it worked for them once before, say on a personal level in relationships and how to get your way.

If people were christians at all, then you would abstain from slander.

There are many manipulative and clever people, and increasingly large numbers of those who think that their blatant lack of sincerity makes them 'clever enough' to be both judges of character and of things they simply know nothing whatsoever about. I call these Gargoyle type persons, 'People who know a great deal about Nothing Whatsoever'.

And I am sorry if I have once again in this non-visual, and thus difficult to manage environment for me, given a wholly wrong impression, one for instance that I too care for anyone whatsoever, unlike christ who became I believe in the end wholly exhausted by the people he met and had to put up with.

Anyway, good luck with it all. As for UFO's v Constitutional matters, joking aside, (sic) I think I have far better chance of seeing the former as a proven reality, personally, than ever witnessing the transcribing of an actual 'constitution for the United Kingdom' in either this lifetime or the next.

Politicians now, and their stoogies too, make it up, more or less, as they go along these days. So why would I pay any heed or wasted energy to their claims or promises ...? I have absolutely no intention of doing.

I can only pinpoint and point out what I know, most likely from all the evidence I have personally experienced that such and such is quite likely true or could be an outcome etc. But putting my faith in the words of common garden liars and slanderers and deceivers is not likely to be very high on my list of priorities given the small time frame in which anyone one of us has in this life.

Jones is regularly to be heard now pointing out that the forums are run by undesirables.

Any way this is really boring and the whole thing brings to mind Martin Brundles' commentary from the Korean Formula 1 race today, regarding HRT teams new participation. viz: "I don't know what they're doing here, or what their objectives are ...". I feel like a Louis Hamilton, all soaking wet and stuck behind a slow 'safety car' that threatens to be there for the whole sodden affair. I'd rather be in Linda Hamilton's Pants. (Sarah Conner)

And so, adieu.
804  The Wall / Music / Leisure Activities / Fun & Games / Re: MY Halloween Story: Anyone Care to Comment? on: October 22, 2010, 06:05:24 pm
what do I tink? Dunno!

But have you thought of trying to get published in Readers Digest?
805  General / Art / Satire / Cartoons / Parodies / Osborne Commits National Suicide, Sarkozy calls in 'SWAT' teams & somewhere ... on: October 20, 2010, 08:50:58 am
... in the hallowed halls on the banks of 'Old-Father-Thames' a well preserved and closetted Quasi Autonomous Government Outfit is figuring out how to dispose of 300,000,000 Europeans in death camps without anyone noticing ...

"Ah, Mein fuher I haf an plän, en cunning plän. We export all our Political Dissidents, the 'Mentally Ill', the infirm, all Romany gypsies, & zee tired and zee useless eaters to xe American Continent FEMA camps, Yah! Und Zer, ve will make an example of zese useless human beings through sacrifice to our lord overseer and descendant of Nimrod and zuss once again win for our glorification about 1000 years of servitude from the fluoridated & Braindead American people.

Wot could be easier ... !

Gentlemen, do I haf your approval ...?"

And now today's News in Pictures ...

Al ist clar?!

I give up! I officially give up, .... not!
806  The War Room / 7/7 London Bombings / Re: July 7th Inquest begins with MI5 Saying quite clearly they will set the rules on: October 18, 2010, 07:46:29 am
Greetings from J7: The July 7th Truth Campaign

As you might expect, J7: The July 7th Truth Campaign is keeping a close
eye on 7/7 Inquests that are taking place at the Royal Courts of Justice
under the auspices of Lady Justice Hallett. The Inquests are expected to
last at least five months and will see the release of evidence that has
previously been kept from public scrutiny.

The J7 submissions to the Inquests announced last week detailed
suggested lines of inquiry and questions which we believe should be
proposed and considered by the Coroner.  If you haven't seen them yet,
you can read and download the J7: Submissions to the Inquests here:

J7's submissions to the Inquests would appear to have been read and
commented on by the solicitor to the Inquests, Hugo Keith QC.  On the
first day of the Inquests, during his opening statement, Keith stated:

14 My Lady, I have mentioned this evidence because
15 a number of unlikely conspiracy theories have been aired
16 in the press and on the internet. One particular
17 campaigning group has submitted voluminous submissions
18 to the Inquest team, and the submissions reflect
19 long-held views expressed on the website, that website,
20 to the effect that there are a large number of anomalies
21 that merit detailed attention.
22 We consider it important that such claims are
23 identified and addressed, many of the claims were
24 helpfully identified and summarised in the written
25 submissions advanced before you in April by


1 Kingsley Napley.
2 Where such claims do not appear to be supported by
3 the evidence that has been gathered, there is, we feel,
4 a danger that the continuation of such claims might
5 needlessly distress the bereaved families as well as
6 detracting attention away from the issues that you have
7 identified as being worthy of further investigation.
8 My Lady, as you know, the law does not oblige you to
9 conduct an inquisition into every stated rumour and
10 suspicion. There must be a reasonable basis in evidence
11 for such a suspicion before any coroner can be expected
12 to conduct an inquisition into it.
13 There is no evidence at all that we have seen to
14 suggest that the bombers were duped in some way so that
15 they did not know that they were going to die or, even
16 more absurdly, that they did not know that they were
17 carrying explosives at all. Indeed, such claims run
18 entirely contrary to all the evidence that I have
19 summarised so far.


Despite Hugo Keith's confidence in the "evidence summarised so far", and
after only four days of hearings at the Inquests, the official story is
coming even further apart at the seams than it already has as a result
of J7's research since 2005.

However, if your only source of information is the press and mainstream
media, you might know that some of the accused shopped at Asda, but you
wouldn't be aware of the show-stopping fundamental flaws in the official
story that the Inquest hearings have already revealed. 

In order to add the independent public scrutiny for which J7 has earned
renown over the last five years, J7 have set up a dedicated new blog to
examine and analyse witness testimonies and any releases of evidence as
they occur.

J7: 7/7 Inquests Blog - Examining and documenting the proceedings of the
Coroner's Inquest into the London Bombings of 7 July 2005, including
analysis of the hearing transcripts and the evidence presented.

Currently, there are three articles on the blog which examine the
opening of the Inquests and some of the core issues that have been
covered during the first week of the Inquests:

J7: 7/7 Inquests Blog: 7 July Inquests: It's A Conspiracy, Stupid!

J7: 7/7 Inquests Blog: A CCTV Fuss About Nothing?

J7: 7/7 Inquests Blog: The Final Curtain - "CCTV rich" to "CCTV FAIL!"

We will be in touch again soon.  In the meantime, please keep checking
back at the J7: 7/7 Inquests blog.  You can also subscribe to the J7:
7/7 Inquests blog using RSS feed links on the blog, or by email using
the 'Subscribe to J7:Inquests Blog' form in the blog sidebar.

In solidarity, for truth and justice,
J7: The July 7th Truth Campaign
J7: The July 7th Truth Campaign
J7 Blog:
J7 Inquests Blog:
J7 Facebook:
J7 Petition:
J7 Forum:
J7 MySpace:
807  General / The New World Order / Hit-Squads for Benefit Frauds, & 4-Yrs of Servitude, and a NSS Cyber-Strategy ! on: October 17, 2010, 10:07:32 am

Today is Sunday, once rumoured as G for God's day, but now it seems the Fifth Columnists of the NWO have hijacked it as their own holy day.

So today, Foreign Secretary William Haig announced on the BBC Radio, several times, the latest status of the National Security Strategy to include a new method of predicting crime ('Pre-Crime') before it happens, without going into any detail of the methodology or techniques and also announced a clampdown on the web, another pre-emptive move against the home-grown and foreign threat of 'cybercrime'. The NSS by the way is the framework adopted by the MoD during and prior to the Swine-Flu outbreak of earlier this year as a way of implementing co-ordinated 'resilience' and 'Resilience' across communities, councils, the Government and Military.

Meanwhile, also today the Chancellor George Osbourne announced the formation of 'Hit Squads' to target so-called benefit frauds. I don't know what a benefit fraudster looks like: do you know how hard it is to even get benefit if you have cancer, ME, Parkinson's or any other debilitating disease, I'll give you a hint, - it's a fight.

The above mentioned 'Hit-Squad' will consist according to BBC and the Telegraph of 200 new recruits, no doubt retrained ex-Police or Military to move into areas where benefit claims &/or alleged 'fraud' are highest. Anybody actually accused of 'benefit fraud' may be deprived of their rights to any benefits; for 4-years, according to the morning's first reports, later on it reduced miraculously to 3-years (sign that they're making stuff up in fear as they go along?). If when filling out a benefits claim form a claimant makes even the slightest error, he/she will be hit by an immediate £50 ($100) fine.

And this they call news? This is only news from Satan's new world order. I thought the Pre-Tribunal, Pre-evacuation to the Siberian Gulags, and final deprivation of privileges phase was well documented & historically verified as fact from the beginning through to the middle of the last century by Solzhenitsyn.

Welcome to the Gulag. Don't worry, you silly you! You'll love it - Promise!
808  Science & Technology / Project Blue Beam / UFO's / Alien Hoax Exposed / UFO's over Manhatten? Aye, Right! on: October 14, 2010, 05:50:23 pm
Now whilst UFO's are real and the best way to hide a truth is between two lies, here is the FAKE UFO story elucidated by ICKE and JONES in the MONEY BOMB marathon. This I can tell you is 100% fake. I recognise the difference. Plus it's the NYT reporting, but the recently 'modernised' MUFON seem to be falling for it ...

Are Humans really this dumb? I'm shocked. This stuff is pure drivel, but I guess the Moronic People are truly up to the task of proving, that they will go along with any old, I'll say it Monkton, without the Bleep, ****. <Message from US Censorship command HQ: All profanity has been suppressed on this forum. Your Compliance is appreciated. Please be aware that swearing can be an indicator of an intention to commit acts of barbaric terrorism such as pointing out that our MYLAR balloons are not UFO's. THANK-YOU FOR YOUR TIME> - [EOF] USCCHQ. Sign off.
809  Mass Mind Control / Social Engineering / Corporate "News" Media / Bang Go the Quangos — But is this cutting the waste or done in very bad taste? on: October 14, 2010, 12:34:16 pm
On the 23rd of September, the same day coincidentally, as the first day of ~2,000,000 demonstrators takign to teh streets of France or walking off their jobs in reprisals for 'The Cuts' and 'Austerity Measures', the UK's Daily Telegraph published the full list of Quasi Non-Governmental Organisations (QUANGO) to be either abolished, consolidated/amalgamated or retained.

Quango cuts: full list of bodies under review.

Very short abstract of the 3-sections.
Take a look:

To be abolished
Disability Employment Advisory Committee

Disability Living/Attendance Allowance Advisory Board

Disabled Persons' Transport Advisory Committee

Expert Advisory Group on HIV/AIDS

Expert Panel on Air Quality Standards

Farm Animal Welfare Council

Food from Britain

Foreign Compensation Commission

Gene Therapy Advisory Committee

General Social Care Council

General Teaching Council for England

Genetics and Insurance Committee

Legal Deposit Advisory Panel

Legal Services Commission

Legal Services Ombudsman

London Thames Gateway Development Corporation*

Main Honours Advisory Committee

Maqistrates' Court Rule Committee

Museums, Libraries and Archives Council

National Housing and Planning Advice Unit

National Information Governance Board

National Joint Registry Steering Committee

National Policing Improvement Agency

National Standing Committee for Farm Animal Genetic Resources

National Tenant Voice

National Endowment for Science, Technology and Arts

National Policing Improvement Agency

National Standing Committee for Farm Animal Genetic Resources

National Tenant Voice

National Endowment for Science, Technology and Arts

Office for the Civil Society Advisory Bodies

Olympic Park Legacy Company*

Pesticides Residues Committee

Public Guardian Board

Qualifications and Curriculum Development Agency

Railway Heritage Committee

Regional Development Agencies (8 bodies)

Renewables Advisory Board

Royal Commission on Environmental Pollution

School Food Trust

School Support Staff Negotiating Body

Scientific Advisory Committee on Nutrition

Security Commission

Security Industry Authority


Spongiform Encephalopathy Advisory Committee

Standards Board for England

Strategic Advisory Board for Intellectual Property

Sustainable Development Commission

Teachers TV Board

The Theatres Trust

Thurrock Thames Gateway Development Corporation*

UK Chemical Weapons Convention National Authority Advisory Committee

UK Film Council

Union Modernisation Advisory Fund

Veterinary Residues Committee

Waste Electrical and Electronic Equipment Advisory Board

West Northamptonshire Development Corporation*

Women's National Commission

Zoos Forum


To be Retained:
Scientific Advisory Committee on the Medical Implications of Less-Lethal Weapons

Security Vetting Appeals Panel

Senior Salaries Review Body

Sentencing Council for England and Wales

Social Security Advisory Committee

Technical Advisory Board

Technical Assessor for Compensation of Miscarriages of Justice

Technology Strategy Board

The Royal Mint

The Westminster Foundation for Democracy

Traffic Commissioners and Deputies

Treasure Valuation Committee

Tribunals Procedure Rule Committee

Tribunals Service

Trinity House Lighthouse Service

UK Anti Doping

UK Commission for Employment and Skills

UK Trade and Investment

Veterans Advisory and Pensions Committees (13 bodies)

Veterinary Products Committee

Victims Commissioner

Victim's Advisory Panel


So you get the picture. No evident biases there ....

Here is the full list of quangos currently under review by coalition plans seen by the Daily Telegraph.
810  General / Introductions / Re: Welcome on: October 14, 2010, 05:45:13 am
Thought I would be social and start a thread.
 Roll Eyes

You told me once you weren't social.

Oh, now I'm here by the way, and for the benefit of everyone else. I used to have a former existance, with about 3,000 posts, in a forum that was hacked and permanently taken down from the inside by a PP forums moderator infiltrator, so the strongly grounded rumour goes.

Now I'm here, I'd like to add I'm not on a primary mission to expose Co-IntelPro, meaning in this instance those people who don't follow the official guru position and 'take' on events, and who are thus named, primarily by Americans. 

 I'm here to expose corruption and I've never been afraid to present the physical or documented proof in trying to do so in my past life/lives.

But I don't think sitting behind a forum screen is going to change much. It might lead to over excitable expectations. For a supply of information alone, I still believe in the media, but when it comes to personal slamming or accusation of being 'CointelPro', that's all just the game-handlers making sure they stay in charge of debate to the exclusion of all non-vetted opinions etc etc, ... What is it, were you born yesterday, do I have to explain everything or something?

We don't have long left. I suggest a sense of urgency and deliberate and focussed action. If anyone is going to start on me on here, get it over with now, let's see your colors and I'll be off.

I haven't got the time to waste.

Bye Now.
811  Science & Technology / Big Brother / Police State Tech / What is to become of our TYPE 0 Civilisation, according to Michio Kaku - C-SPAN. on: October 13, 2010, 03:07:16 pm
In Depth with Michio Kaku
— Oct 3, 2010

Michio Kaku, Astrophysicist and would be Oracle To the illuminati, shares with us a 3-hr C-SPAN of his insights and generic wisdoms ... about Global Warming preventing our transition from a TYPE 0 (not interesting or famous enough for kaku) civilisation to a TYPE 1 (Brutal dicatorship, exterminating it's 'terrorist' opponents, as-per Star-Trek's prediction of 'The Eugenics Wars'). He claims to get all his predictions 'bang-on' because like Jones, he talks to the real scientists behind these developments, in the same way Jules Verne got to predict desk-top computers and an internet like system of global communication ...

"The Hunter is dangerous, the hunter can kill the deer, the hunter wants to kill the deer, the hunter wants to eat the deer ...".

No, I don't, as I think you're likely too full of radiaoactive fallout from the Hiroshima/Nagasaki drops.

Tune in and share the deep knowledge of the enlightened ones, that vaguely resemble Native American Injuns.
812  General / General Discussion / Re: 3.5 Million French Demonstators on the streets against 'Austerity Cuts', - CFDT on: October 13, 2010, 02:24:26 pm
French strikes: 3.5 million take to streets to protest pension reform.

'More than three million people took to the streets of France in protest at pension reforms, with distant echoes of May 1968 as students and schoolchildren swelled numbers to record highs.'
By Henry Samuel in Paris
Published: 6:20PM BST 12 Oct 2010

Boy it gives you a bellyache don't it, those lusty young french nubile flangeurs letting it all hang on the streets of an actual half-alive remnant of a republic. Don't it make ya' jealous

Just look at you, all alone, dreaming of being counted amongst the brave, but stuck at home.
813  The War Room / 9/11 Material & Research / Re: 'Operation Dark Heart' Author Alleges 9/11 Cover Up on: October 13, 2010, 11:15:51 am
Judge Napolitano:

"Did any thing from the Loose-Leaf make it into the Final Report"

Ex CIA man:

"Numph, Numph ...."

But seriously folks this is the first time I've seen 'The Judge' at work, being a limey, so Well done both of you, there's hope in hindsight yet ...
814  General / General Discussion / Re: 3.5 Million French Demonstators on the streets against 'Austerity Cuts', - CFDT on: October 13, 2010, 01:10:24 am
WE live in treacherous times my friends and with the lengthening of the shadows, in every sense.

And I have to ask myself why am I encouraged to watch Youtubes of the 1968 demonstrators being portrayed as willing 'communits' bent on overthrowing our beloved capitalism. I don't think they had much choice in how they were portrayed, but since I have personally known some of those that occupied the barricades in '68 I can tell you they were pretty much normal human beings, seeking their dignity, and trying to maintain control over their lives.

Capitalism in its heyday did me no great favours, I'll be honest, and it's not my saviour, it's more like a tightening noose. That's what all europeans feel these days and I'll be quite clear, - if I was a little younger, a little warmer, and little less of thousands of Km away from Paris today, I'd be happy to join the ranks of Machio Kaku's 'Terrorists' and 'manifest' or demonstrate there today. I'm not much of a single-handed organizer of rallies.

All the infrastructure of total tyranny and oppression is being rolled out across europe, and I'm just surprised we don't hear stories of death camps being built outside Berlin, London and Lyon, but the Germans didn't hear about them either until after the war.

Anything is possible in this new world order of miracles, in this land of miracles and 'new opportunities'.

815  General / General Discussion / 3.5 Million French Demonstators on the streets against 'Austerity Cuts', - CFDT on: October 12, 2010, 12:55:28 pm
Trade Union Confédération française démocratique du travail (CFDT) predicts a turnout of 3.5 Million across France tomorrow Wednesday, which would be 600,000 more than on the previous two 'days of action' on the 23rd Sept and 2nd October.

One demonstrator, two demonstrators, three demonstrators ... but how many are there?

Meanwhile the ministry of the interior predicts just a 1.2Million turnout against a 997,000 turnout on the 23rd.

This has yet to develop the hallmarks of 1968, but when it does, I heartily recommend staying tuned, as last time it happened back then, all news was 'D' noticed by the BBC and no-one heard about the events.

'Come on, show me the money'

Libération just updated their headline with these figures after I went to press:
816  Health, Family & Eugenics / The Air We Breathe / Hungary's 'CRIMSON SLUDGE' likened to a Chemical Tchernobyl. on: October 11, 2010, 03:34:31 pm
Hungary's 'CRIMSON SLUDGE' likened to a Chemical Tchernobyl.

It's the 25th Anniversary, next year, of the Tchernobyl incident just a few hundred km, I guess, further to the East, and According to french Journal 'Liberation' in a video stream on there, the 'Red Sludge' is a 'Chemical Tchernobyl':
(Select toolbox › .flv for possible smoother/faster stream.)

èn Francais, mes Braves soldats....

" On est 70 km du BudaPest, Il faut porter un masque.[...] Ça fait vraiment un Tchernobyl Chemique .... 400 Million tonnes, ça coule très lentement."

'It has dried out and it's leaching/flowing away very slowly'

[rendered to english]:
A second leak of the dam due to rainfall, or a fracture of the many fissures, there is one large hole in particular, would cause a re-liquification of the sludge and a new deluge that would flood towards the villages
817  The War Room / 7/7 London Bombings / July 7th Inquest begins with MI5 Saying quite clearly they will set the rules on: October 11, 2010, 01:45:23 pm
Submissions by J7-Truth campaign to the July 7 London underground & bus bombing/explosions Enquiry/Inquest are to be made now that the Enquiry has opened, with as token jesture, all 53 dead's names being read out in the court. Father to one such victim, a Mr Graham Foulkes a witness at the hearings stated on Channel 4 News that:
"We've now seen that the intelligence community don't seem to be able to answer to anybody they made it clear just this week that they are not answerable to a judge, they are not answerable to a coroner and their are not answerable to Parliament and they've said quite clearly that they will set the rules on how the inquest will be run, and that's not right".

C4 News anchor stated that:
"A number of family members have stated concerns about the security services apparent lack of co-operation with the inquest"

Follows an excerpt from the quite astonishing ascertions by the July 7th Campaign, to be presented as evidence, as found at:


J7 Response to the Provisional Index of Factual Issues – Provisional Index of Factual Issues – Issue 7 & 8
Forensic issues regarding the bombs and the bodies of MSK, Tanweer, Hussain and Lindsay
7. The likely components, manner of construction and mode of operation of the explosive devices.
8. The likely involvement of MSK, Tanweer, Hussain and Lindsay in the development and assembly of the explosive devices.

Immediately after the events of 7th July 2005 all the news reports that mentioned the kind of explosive used stated that high grade explosives, as typically used by military forces, were responsible. While much of this may be dismissed as media speculation, the police authoritatively confirmed this on the record:
Deputy Assistant Commissioner Brian Paddick: "All we are saying is that it is high explosives. That would tend to suggest that it is not home-made explosive. Whether it is military explosive, whether it is commercial explosive, whether it is plastic explosive we do not want to say at this stage."1
Assistant Police Commissioner Andy Hayman:
"Initially, the forensic investigation suggests that each device used had less than 10 pounds of high explosives"2
Expert scientists Hans Michels and Neil Fisher also confirmed this opinion.3
Clearly the early forensic evidence from the blast sites indicated that high explosives had been used. Why has this evidence been set aside?
1 Advanced bombs were so powerful that none of 49 dead have been identified -
2 Ibid.
3 Plastic explosives seen as most likely material | UK news | The Guardian - J7: THE JULY 7TH TRUTH CAMPAIGN SUBMISSION TO THE 7 JULY INQUEST - PIFI-07-08 WWW.JULYSEVENTH.CO.UK

The evidence presented by Clifford Todd, at the trials of those cleared of conspiring with the alleged perpetrators of the July 7th 2005 explosions, was that the main explosive charge was a mixture of highly concentrated hydrogen peroxide and ground black pepper.
Giving evidence at the trial for the 21st July 2005 incidents, explosives expert Professor Hans Michels stated that those devices were "not capable of exploding"4. His evidence was so compelling that the prosecution dropped the charge of conspiracy to cause explosions likely to endanger life5.
The devices allegedly used on 7th July 2005 were essentially the same (using pepper instead of flour) as those which a court of law has revealed to be "not capable of exploding".
No credible explanation has been given of how they were capable of causing the explosions that occurred on 7th July 2005.

Although, as stated above, Clifford Todd gave his expert opinion that the main explosive charge was peroxide and organic material, he also stated that the investigation had failed to find any trace of the main explosive charge at the sites.
In the absence of these traces, what is the evidential basis for his opinion that the main explosive charge was peroxide and organic material given that by his own admission such a device would be "unique in the UK and possibly the whole world"?6
Explosions caused by some kind of electrical failure would also leave no residue.
How have electrical explosions on the Underground trains (perhaps amplified by the detonation of tunnel dust) been ruled out, given the early reports of power surges and eye witness accounts of the train floor being raised up as if the explosion had originated underneath it.

4 BBC NEWS | UK | 21/7 suspect's claim 'is amazing' -
5 BBC NEWS | UK | 21/7 accused are 'plainly guilty' -
6 Details of July 7 'bomb factory' disclosed - Telegraph -
7 CEN News : Region-wide : "I was in tube bomb carriage - and survived" -
818  The Wall / Off Topic / Whining / Re: DAVID CAMERON DISCUSSED GARY McKINNON with BARACK OBAMA in the WHITE HOUSE on: October 10, 2010, 12:35:08 pm
I'll add: I guess that the same can be said of the internet in general, for what it is likely become, or likely to become ... viz-a-viz personal security issues, whilst we're on about 'security', I'd say it's rapidly become the most setup to be knocked down mass participatory event in history.

 I think we are still in the arena where 'THE WEB' can be exploited for good. But only just.

There is definitely something awry with the javascript buttons on this site. Does anyone else get that and feel that can say so .....? They don't work!!!

Whereas I know I'm not normal and am the target for 'far away laughter' for it, but I'll admit here for all the world of web monkeys to see: I like things that actually work properly, as they were designed to, and not be a flaming abortion.

Dangermouse puts up his feet
819  The Wall / Off Topic / Whining / Re: DAVID CAMERON DISCUSSED GARY McKINNON with BARACK OBAMA in the WHITE HOUSE on: October 10, 2010, 04:06:52 am
This forum may have been momentarily hacked! But who cares, apathy rules ok, yeah. Go back to sleep now.


BE WARNED. Last time I warned about the hacking of one of these forums, ie PrisonPlanet forums, because of real knowledge on who may be involved, I got banned.

Have an nice day. Bye-Now! Unbelievable.
820  The Wall / Off Topic / Whining / DAVID CAMERON DISCUSSED GARY McKINNON with BARACK OBAMA in the WHITE HOUSE on: October 10, 2010, 04:04:02 am
Off Topic, Wining, The Purposes of Global Gulag, and UFO's....? What we need to do is preserve the good solid foundation the HUAC (House on Un-American Activities Committee) established to deal with this potential unconstitutional disidence. .... I pass the motion, and what a mess you're getting into ...

Here's what's coming down the tube.


I have a small personal campaign under way, which may in the next three weeks lead to me being able to prove that Asperger's people, who because of their alleged innate tendency to investigate things that are none of their business are being corralled, but in a nice gentle, seemingly non-predatory way. Because you love them and want to take care of ....

Stay tuned to this Bat-Channel, where the loonies, freaks and mentally ill congregate to seal their exclusive and individually unique, yet somehow tangibly collective fates in this Brave New World of Miracles in this Empire of Miracles and 'new possibilities'.
821  Health, Family & Eugenics / Alternative Health / Natural Food / GE Salmon? Are You Out of Your Minds?! on: October 09, 2010, 06:14:21 pm

GE Salmon? Are You Out of Your Minds?! —Institute for Responsible Technology.

To help stop GE salmon, please sign petitions to the food industry and Congress.

Has the FDA gone completely mad? Why are they trying to open the flood gates to genetically engineered (GE) salmon—a move that will go down in history as one of the most asinine and dangerous ever made by our government? What’s it going to take for them to actually start protecting public health?

Frankenfish can promote disease

The FDA is reviewing data submitted by AquaBounty, the company that spliced a growth hormone gene into Atlantic salmon, forcing it to grow up to five times faster, and reach market size in about 18 months instead of 3 years. But according to the evidence, their buff salmon might have higher levels of a cancer promoting hormone IGF-1, more antibiotics, and more of a potentially life-threatening allergen(s).

The FDA failed to learn their lesson with their idiotic approval of genetically engineered bovine growth hormone. It also has higher levels of IGF-1 and more antibiotics. Now it’s condemned by the American Public Health Association and the American Nurses Association, banned in most other countries, and has been banished by most US dairies. Even Wal-Mart won’t allow the stuff into their milk.

The GE soy and corn on the market, which the FDA continues to pretend is just the same as the natural stuff, also has higher levels of allergens, and has been linked to numerous disorders. Now the American Academy of Environmental Medicine condemned genetically modified organisms (GMOs) and urged all physicians to prescribe non-GMO diets. “GMO-Free” is one of the fastest growing health claims among US brands for the past two years, and a tipping point of consumer rejection of all GE ingredients appears to be just over the horizon.

Then there is the threat of Frankenfish escaping into the wild. Here too, the FDA ignores the lessons from GE crops which, in spite of early assurances to the contrary, have been contaminating non-GE crops and wild relatives all over the world for more than a decade. Their self-propagating genetic pollution is irreversible; it can outlast the effects of global warming and nuclear waste. But somehow escaped GE salmon carry an even greater hazard.

Frankenfish can wipe out natural salmon

According to a Purdue University computer model that tracked the effects of releasing just 60 Frankenfish (not salmon) into a population of 60,000, there was a shocking complete extinction in just 40 fish generations. Apparently their bigger size, which attracted mates more easily, combined with a slight reduction in survival rates, was a killer combination.

Canadian scientists engineered their own set of fast growing salmon and tested their behavior in tanks with other fish. When there was sufficient food, all was fine. When food stocks decreased, the Frankenfish freaked. They became cannibals, attacking and killing other fish—whether GE or natural. Their unexpected behavior resulted in population crashes or complete extinctions in the fish tanks. The study also suggested that if released, these ravenous aggressive salmon would pursue and consume other types of fish.

I’m not sure which scenario is worse: The complete extinction of salmon, or gangs of voracious mutant freaks scouring the ocean, attacking anything that can feed their rapidly-expanding, always-hungry bodies. (Heck, let’s just give the fish automatic weapons.)

Never mind that the GE AquAdvantage salmon are supposed to be grown in inland tanks and are supposed to be sterile. In reality, they won’t all be sterile; and there are numerous ways that these salmon, whose eggs will regularly be shipped from Prince Edward Island, Canada to growing tanks in Panama, can escape into the ocean. It only takes one!

Corporate interests and politics run the FDA show

US consumers have been clear for years that we don’t want Frankenfish, Frankenpigs, Frankenmosquitoes, Frankenanything that walks, flies, slithers, or swims. And most Americans are now uneasy about the Frankencrops already growing in our fields. So who is clamoring for GE salmon? Who’s getting the FDA to push open the doors to GE animals against public opinion?

Thank you Union of Concerned Scientists for the answer. Your September 12th survey of 1710 FDA employees explains who is really driving the bus at the agency. One staff member said, “Food safety has succumbed to the higher priority of global corporate profits.” In fact, 38 percent of respondents agreed or strongly agreed that “public health has been harmed by agency practices that defer to business interests.”

Another employee points to political interference: “I have been here for 26 years and it still amazes me . . . how politics filter down to the lowest levels of government.”

So its corporate profits and politics. Anyone surprised? About 1 in 4 surveyed admit that they had personally experienced, either frequently or occasionally, “situations where corporate interests [or members of Congress, or special interests] have forced the withdrawal or significant modification of [an agency] policy or action designed to protect consumers or public health.”

If there is one face that best captures the FDA’s conflict-of-humanity’s-interest, it would be Michael Taylor. Taylor is the US Food Safety Czar. You’d think that if there were significant safety concerns about the GE salmon, our Czar would step in to preserve and protect. Don’t count on it.

Back when the first Bush White House had instructed the FDA to promote biotechnology, the agency created a special position for Taylor to be in charge. He had been the outside attorney for biotech giant Monsanto, where he had dreamed up a regulatory facade that would allow GMOs to be brought to market with maximum speed and minimum oversight. Then he took a position with the FDA where he could apparently implement it himself. His GMO policy falsely claimed that the agency was unaware of information showing GM foods to be different. On that basis, no testing or labeling was required. Years later, 44,000 documents made public from a lawsuit revealed that the consensus among FDA’s own scientists was that GM foods were unsafe, and should be carefully tested for allergies, toxins, new diseases, and nutritional problems.

Soon after leaving the FDA, Michael Taylor went to work as Monsanto’s vice president.

So the person who lied about GMO safety to push them on the market now sits above the folks that are looking at GE Salmon. Not a comforting thought.

Stacking the deck for approving salmon

How else does corporate influence play out in the current FDA debacle?

Consider Alison L. Van Eenennaam. She too used to work for Monsanto, and now has been added as a temporary voting member on the committee that advises the FDA about the salmon. She also advises the USDA and promotes GE animals on Youtube.

Kevin G. Wells was also added as a temporary voting member for salmon. He works at Revivicor, a company that genetically engineers pigs. Do you suppose there is any conflict of interest for him establishing an easy ride for GE animal approvals? Perhaps.

Gregory Jaffe was also imported into the committee as their supposed consumer advocate. In reality, he is with the pro-GMO Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI), an organization that consistently ignores the mounting evidence of adverse health impacts from GE crops. Jaffe even filed a complaint to the FDA in 2001 complaining of companies that label their products as non-GMO. What further qualified Jaffe for his committee position was his published article Questions About Genetically Engineered Animals, where he touts the environmental benefits of AquAdvantage salmon.

The engineered bias of the FDA advisory committee is made even more clear by who is absent. There are no experts on allergies or hormones who can address the possible health damaging effects of the fish, and no fish ecologists who can figure out whether our grandchildren will live in a world without wild salmon.

Institutionalized stupidity

But even before the committee was picked, the deck was stacked in favor of approvals. In 2008, the Bush administration rolled out a policy in which GE animals would be approved as if they were animal drugs. This latest square peg is part of a continuing effort to regulate GMOs without asking Congress to pass any new laws. So, since 1992, the government has been jerry-rigging inadequate pre-existing laws to handle the unique and complex safety and environmental considerations of genetically engineered organisms.

Even if GE animals weren’t infinitely more complex than some drug compound, using the FDA drug approval process shouldn’t give us great confidence. Between 1976 and 1985, for example, more than half of their drug approvals turned out to have lethal or serious side effects, forcing withdrawal or added label warnings. Try conducting a recall of GE salmon from the ocean.

Failing grades all around

Even with stacked committee membership, an antiquated approval policy, and an agency that is officially mandated to promote biotechnology, the Frankenfish did not swim past the advisory committee on September 19th and 20th. That’s because the committee agreed with safety experts like Dr. Michael Hansen of the Consumers Union (they publish Consumer Reports) that the evidence presented by AquaBounty was abysmal and insufficient. Using a sample size of only 6 fish, employing insensitive detection methods that could easily miss cancer-promoting hormones or allergens, and testing fish that were raised in a completely different climate than what is planned, were among the sloppy science that the FDA had accepted. (See addendum below for examples.)

In fact the only person on the committee who had any experience with fish, Gary Thorgaard, completely disagreed with the FDA’s conclusion that the Frankenfish didn’t threaten the environment. He called for a full Environmental Impact Statement.

Hansen says, “The data and analysis of food safety risks from the AquAdvantage Salmon are so sloppy and inadequate that, if this were an undergraduate paper, it would get a failing grade.  No self-respecting scientist could conclude that these data demonstrate that AquAdvantage salmon are safe to eat.”

Thus, in spite of the fact that the company had been submitting data to the FDA for more than ten years, the advisory committee concluded that the evidence was insufficient to conclude that GE salmon was safe for the environment and for human health. They told AquaBounty to go back and to do more testing.

I propose a different recommendation. This little exercise made it perfectly clear that AquaBounty is either completely incompetent to evaluate the safety of their own creation, or they’re intentionally hiding evidence. In either case, let’s not send the same folks back to do more research, hoping they’ll get it right. Instead, tell these jokers that they have proved to the world that they are never ever ever to be trusted with the future of salmon or the safety of the human food supply.

And what about the FDA—the brain cell behind the Don’t-ask-don’t-tell food safety assessments? They have again demonstrated that they too are not competent to protect the public from the unique unpredictable dangers of genetically engineered foods.

If you want to GE salmon stopped for good, now is the time to raise your voice. Since the FDA has been ignoring US citizens in favor of business interests and politics, please join me in inviting the food industry and Congress to stop in and stop this madness. Go to our action alert pages to sign the petitions today.

. . .

Addendum: How Not to Do a Food Safety Assessment

The FDA’s evaluation of GE salmon is the first of its kind. Because it will set a precedent for all future GE animal approvals, the bar should be set very high. According to Dr. Michael Hansen, who testified at the FDA advisory committee meeting on behalf of Consumers Union, the FDA set the bar a foot off the ground.

When AquaBounty looked for potentially dangerous growth hormones in the salmon, for example, they used a detection method so insensitive, it couldn’t find any hormones in any fish. The FDA therefore concluded that there was no relevant difference in hormone levels in GE salmon. Dr. Hansen told the committee, “This would be like the police using a radar gun that cannot detect speeds below 120 mph and concluding that there is no ‘relevant difference’ in the speed of cars versus bicycles.”

Because the company also used an insensitive test to measure cancer-promoting insulin-like growth hormone factor one (IGF-1), levels were detected in only a few fish. Of these, the GE salmon was 40% higher. Again, insufficient data combined with faulty reasoning allowed the FDA to conclude that IGF-1 from GE salmon is not a problem.

Even then, these test results were not from the type of GE salmon that the company plans to market. Instead, the tests were conducted on the GE salmon variety that will produce the fish eggs in Canada. The DNA of these “egg-layers” have the normal two sets of chromosomes (diploid). The GE salmon to be grown from their eggs in Panama, however, end up with three sets of chromosomes (triploid)—so that most will be sterile. It’s the Panama-grown triploid variety that will go onto our dinner table if the FDA has their way. So what was the response by the FDA and AquaBounty when asked for the IGF-1 levels of the actual fish (raised in the actual conditions) that people would actually eat? “Well…er….uhm…we’ll get back to you.”

The situation with allergies is worse. According to Hansen, the tests conducted by AquaBounty confirmed that “the act of genetic engineering did lead to an increase in allergenic potency.” In fact, when the flesh from egg-laying (diploid) fish was exposed to the blood (sera) of people who are allergic to salmon, there was a whopping 52% increase in reaction levels. Furthermore, the specific allergen that had increased in the Frankenfish was not supposed to be affected. It did not come from the inserted gene. Rather, the increase in this potentially life-threatening allergen was just one of the unpredictable side-effects that can result from the process of genetic engineering itself.

The FDA decided this time to ignore this troublesome finding, since it was from the egg-laying diploids. The company did test the allergic reaction to the triploids (the ones we’ll eat), but used fish that were raised in Canada, not Panama. This should have disqualified the fish study, according to Hansen, since the composition of GE salmon can obviously be affected by water temperature, and growing conditions. Still, the Canadian raised Frankenfish still elicited an allergic response level that was 20% higher than normal salmon. But the FDA dismissed this figure since it was not statistically significant and concluded that the GE salmon was safe to eat. But of course it wasn’t statistically significant. They used just six fish in the sample size! The easiest way to prevent statistical significance is by using a pathetically small number of subjects in your experiment. Hansen said:

“To base a conclusion of no additional risk on exactly six engineered fish, when those data themselves suggest a possible problem, is not responsible science or responsible risk assessment. FDA owes it to the thousands of Americans who are allergic to finfish to demand more data on the allergenicity of these engineered salmon from AquaBounty.”

Thank you Dr. Hansen for helping to protect us from the bungling Frankenfish promoters. Let’s hope they will listen.

Don’t forget to sign the petitions to the food industry and Congress.
822  Multimedia Center / Audio / Internet Radio / Children & 9/11, and their take on a Big Bad World of Bad News. on: October 09, 2010, 05:27:54 pm
I was just listening to radio 4. Oh, dear. Anyway, at half way thru the show not knowing what I was listening to, I heard the words 'resilience' in relation to children, and their capability to deal with a rapidly changing world full of shocking news stories, like the Gulf Oil Spill, Chilean Miners trapped 600' underground and ofcourse the biggest story of the century, so far anyway, - 9/11.

Bringing Up Britain
Wed 6 Oct 2010, 20:00
BBC Radio 4
Sat 9 Oct 2010, 22:15
BBC Radio 4

It's worth listening to, actually. You get an idea of how the evolving establishment of child psychiatrists, media pundits and those involved in 'protecting children' see their own roles and their effective ineffectiveness in helping children to grow up with all this going off around them. How are we doing?

Not brilliantly it seems chief!

We were all kids once, and even if you don't have children (as many, I know amongst us don't), we can still appreciate an insight into how children see the provision of or lack of tailor-made news, made for them around these big-bad-world events.


 The minute I heard the word 'resilience' I knew that I was going to hear mention of 9/11, and within 20-30 seconds I had that link. That's because 'resilience' with a little 'r', (as used in this context) is a new part of the lexicon, introduced to the public in about late 2008, prior just to the Swine-Flu pandemic. But it was previously panderered liberally around intelligence and military think-tanks, just following 9/11. Resilience with a big 'R' is the Establishement's ability to respond and the 'r' version, believe it or not, it's true is used to describe changes in 'our' that's the public's behavioural responses to, in particular I'd allege, - GLOBAL type tragic news and events.
823  Multimedia Center / Audio / Internet Radio / Re: Popular BBC DJ (jock) shipped out to Mexican Border Conflict, now comforts Irish on: October 09, 2010, 08:05:15 am
Fortunately not all his callers are as easy to deal with as I am disposed of ... since he eventually cut me off ... and sadly I do not have the cunning beguiling abilties of one regular caller.

From today's same show:
A bit of Stick O'Toole for Anderson

Right Click »

Ach well ... What Can you Do?
See also:

For those who ask 'what has this got to do with Bringing down the Globalists and their thugs'? If you can't make the connection between the effort this old fellow makes in the face of all adversity, to retain his freedom of speech, on the radio, then you're too young for this game.

So I wondered who this grand old feller who calls in and professionally rakes through the muck is, completely taking the mick out of Anderson's BBC pomp, and whether he's genuine or some actor, although I've never considered the latter as likely. I googled and found:

(Europe Intelligence Wire| March 16, 2004 | COPYRIGHT 2003 Financial Times Ltd. This material is published under license from the publisher through the Gale Group, Farmington Hills, Michigan.  All inquiries regarding rights should be directed to the Gale Group.)

A PENSIONER known for his cameo appearances on Radio Ulster last night said he would not be silenced by the masked men who beat and robbed him at his home.

Geordie Tuft, renowned as a regular caller to the Gerry Anderson show, told the News Letter he would not hide away or have his life destroyed by the attack which left him with injuries to his hands, ribs and a leg.

"The reason I am speaking about what happened is that these people do not frighten me and I want other pensioners not to be frightened because I am not the first to go through this and I won't be the last," he said.

"You cannot let these people destroy you … "

824  Science & Technology / Weapons Tech / Stepped-up integration of Anglo-American military industrial complex on: October 08, 2010, 04:17:24 pm
Stepped-up integration of Anglo-American military industrial complex
- 2 Oct, 2010.

On 29 September 2010, the U.S. Senate ratified new military treaties with the United Kingdom and Austrailia, said Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman John Kerry, in a statement.

Hereafter, trade of defense hardware between the three countries will be unrestricted.

These treaties, which complement that of 1949, eliminate formalities currently in force and solidifies the integration of the Anglo-American military industrial complex.
825  General / Ridiculous News / Oddball Stuff / The Ridiculous Tale of Howard Marks - a.k.a - 'Mr Nice'. Knew MI6, CIA, IRA, Mob on: October 08, 2010, 03:18:13 pm

During the mid 1980s, Howard Marks had forty-three aliases, eighty-nine phone lines, and twenty five companies trading throughout the world.

Bars, recording studios, offshore banks: all were money-laundering vehicles serving the core activity: dope dealing.

Marks began to deal during a postgraduate philosophy course at Oxford and was soon moving large quantities of hashish into Europe and America in the equipment of touring rock bands. The academic life began to lose its allure.

At the height of his career, he was smuggling consignments of up to thirty tons from Pakistan and Thailand to America and Canada and had contact with organisations as diverse as the CIA, MI6, the IRA, and the Mafia.

After many years and a world-wide operation by the Drug Enforcement Agency, he was busted and sentenced to twenty five years in prison at the United States Federal Penitentiary, Terre Haute, Indiana, the site of America's only Federal Death Row.

He was released on parole in April 1995 after serving seven years of his sentence.

Marks' Life has just been characterised with his approval in a new UK Screen release, 'MR NICE' due to go on country-wide release this month.
826  General / General Discussion / "CointelPro" site 'waronyou', - contains Malware, and IP traced to Gov stockade. on: October 07, 2010, 01:31:33 pm
Microsoft Proposal Opens Door For Government Licensing To Access Internet.

A new proposal by a top Microsoft executive would open the door for government licensing to access the Internet, with authorities being empowered to block individual computers from connecting to the world wide web under the pretext of preventing malware attacks.

I was told that's IP was traced to a Navy department stockade like complex on the eastern seaboard, or somewhere. So, a couple days ago I gave it a spin and visited the site. Sure enough my AV app immediately picked up on a malware download and I had to dump two files to quarantine b4 continuing. Fits.

827  Multimedia Center / Audio / Internet Radio / Re: Popular BBC DJ (jock) shipped out to Mexican Border Conflict, now comforts Irish on: October 07, 2010, 12:13:09 pm
Fortunately not all his callers are as easy to deal with as I am disposed of ... since he eventually cut me off ... and sadly I do not have the cunning beguiling abilties of one regular caller.

From today's same show:
A bit of Stick O'Toole for Anderson

Right Click »

Ach well ... What Can you Do?
See also:
828  Multimedia Center / Audio / Internet Radio / Popular BBC DJ (jock) shipped out to Mexican Border Conflict, now comforts Irish on: October 07, 2010, 10:44:17 am
I'll explain: This Staunch 65-odd year old Ex-Irish showband musician and now popular LondonDerry (Northern Ireland - heart of 'the troubles') Radio Jock responds to my call on Radio Foyle today. That's me speaking and giggling at him. I sound just like PJW, don't I. I know, that reminds I need to move on to a more liberal media where I can actually have a voice.
My first comment is just a bit of humour and is personal between him, his regular listeners and me. It's a repeat of what Thin Lizzy Front man Phil Lynott once said to him in the Public-Toilets of a Irish Concert Venue at the peak of Lynott's popularity, when he was both mega popular and completely broke, and ashamed to admit it in public.

Texan Border Warning to Irish.

Right Click >

In the process of our talk, which I'd wanted to be about Guitars, knowing who he was speaking to, he managed to keep it solidly on track about THE MEXICAN BORDER problem.  He had just explained to his audience the origins of the Phrase 'GRINGO'. From 'Green Grow the Rushes Oh', a melody the US soldiers would be singing back in to the days of THE ALAMO, and surrounding extended conflict.

Anyway, he tells us that last year he was in Mexico, right on the front lines, or behind them, by the sound of it, having a good clear embedded look at the conflict on the Texan border. Is the BBC doing this to all it's staff, shipping them out to view this engineered TEX_MEX Drug wars and 'Broken-Borders'™ conflict. I hear a lot, and I mean a lot of BBC documentary makers (Anderson Makes documentaries too) talking candidly about the current Mexican Border War, as if it's not something completely alien to them.

Then, as a former particicipant in the bloody sunday or rather to be precise, the civil rights march and stone throwing episode which lead up to it, in the fake 'official story' of how Bloody Sunday and 'The Troubles' dragged out, he leads into a cleverly worded warning for Northern Ireland. This Guy is a Catholic, ok, not some stoolpigeon, but a genuine hardworn & once poverty strucken Londonderry former club-musician from 'Derry City who struggled as a down-trodden musician for decades. He's doing what he does, and at his current level, he's saying 'things aren't so bad, in N.I; it could have been so much worse, look at the Texan Mexico Border, where 28,000 have died'. This guy is listened to by everybody in Northern Ireland on both sides of the Protestant/Catholic Divide, and liked for his light-hearted yet realistically grim take on the events of the past, in which he also participated.

A public pole in Derry yesterday revealed that some 30++% of N.I Republicans currently support the real I.R.A, who carried out the fearful OMAGH Bombing, in 1998, that killed ~27.

So, he manages to use his last year's BBC funded & embedded experience, (I don't know maybe it was his own privately financed trip, I guess I'll have to find out), to warn Irish people about how things could have been much worse there in Derry, where only 3000 died during the 30-yr period of 'The Troubles'

You see how media works. It's manipulative, cunning, clever, forward-planning and always covers it's back.
I'm just trying to figure these Salauds out.
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829  The War Room / False Flag Alerts / Iran Target of 'Tripartite' ANGLO-FRANCO-GERMANIC Al'CIA'da False-Flag? on: October 03, 2010, 01:34:20 pm
The False-Flag 'Al'qa'eda' warnings on Britain, France & Germany may, just may point to IRAN as being the coming target of accusation of launching these non-existant attacks in response possibly to the STUXNET WORM fiasco.

How? Here's how.

Britain, France & Germany compose the 'Tripartite' monopoly and agreement for nuclear fuels recycling and provision in this sector of the New World Order. FACT: IRAN dealt with the 'Tripartite' nations back in the early 2000's (noughties) in the deal over their infamous civilian reactors. ANGLO-FRANCO-GERMANY were to supply them the 5% enriched fuel for their civilian reactors in exchange for US allowing them to continue unharrassed with their civilian nuclear program.

Iran's Energy minister refused to deal and since then we have seen the escalation to the point of near invasion we have today, so it is alleged, although I've always thought invasion is still unlikely. Maybe.

Therefore the Threat following the half-witted STUXNET Fiasco is to be viewed, psychologically as coming from IRAN. Yes, Israel may be the Opportunistic Predator that may do something in response to this threat, or it may all add-up to nothing than more projection, 'THE IRANIAN's ARE TO BLAME' for what the intelligence services now have to do, and are doing in ANGLO-FRANCO-GERMANIA, and that's clampdown more on freedoms or at least maintain them in the name of liberty, International PEACE and Nuclear SECURITY.

Sellafield of British Nuclear Group is one of links in the chain, as is The COGEMA run SuperPhoenix Nuclear Reprocessing Plant at Cap-de-La-Hague on the Northern French Coastline. (Both close to water for emergency dumping, flushouts, and Cooling water).
I've never been familiarised with the German Plant(s).

I will be the first person, and only person anywhere, to make this connection. But on the other hand it could all be just good old deniable, but unlikely coincidence. For although I respect coincidence, I still don't trust in it.
830  Multimedia Center / Documentaries / Re: Church of Scientology Documentary. 'Corrupt, Sinister and Dangerous'. on: September 30, 2010, 09:52:26 am
I have wondered about, for at least 10 seconds of my valuable time, of the intrinsic value to the Church of Scientology of the 'bad-press' (there's no promotional publicity like bad press) and its distraction value, as readers here no doubt see it, from the all important backburner issues, like Tea-parties, the dying embers of the US Constitution and Ron Paul, and I wonder if the former may exceed any negative image to Scientology conjured up by these two BBC Documentaries, separated by 3-yrs as they are.

But then again, I've been brainwashed by 'too much contact'.

Is this Church even as it says 'the fastest growing religion in the world'? and other sites reflect a list like this, of groups some of which profess to be the world's fastest,
— that's fastest land dwelling, and er, growing religion(s).



Growth rate*: 1.84 percent


Adherents: 1.3 billion




Growth rate: 1.70 percent


Adherents: 7.7 million




Growth rate: 1.62 percent


Adherents: 25.8 million




Growth rate: 1.57 percent


Adherents: 5.9 million




Growth rate: 1.52 percent


Adherents: 870 million




Growth rate: 1.38 percent


Adherents: 2.2 billion

But UFO-based cult believers are probably quite low down the list, and 'I should know'. (sicco)
831  The Wall / Off Topic / Whining / How the Church of Scientology adds to Debunking the UFO mythology. on: September 29, 2010, 02:49:43 pm
... to the point that even hollywood stars are finding it difficult to part with their millions of bucks in support of it ...,525.msg1770.html#msg1770
832  Multimedia Center / Documentaries / Re: Church of Scientology Documentary. 'Corrupt, Sinister and Dangerous'. on: September 29, 2010, 02:19:31 pm
20 hits in 20 minutes! Mostly it would appear from Church-sponsored Web Monkeys and Bots trawling for mentions of 'the church' in order that they may immediately facilitate targetted pro-church promotional advertising. That's what Google Ads is all about.

Let's add too:

Hollywood Celebrities are 'spoilt rotten' by the Church according to defector Jason Beghe, onetime star of 'GI Jane' (Dir Ridley Scott, — 'Alien') and 'Thelma and Louise'.

Still adherent John Travolta starred in a 2000 Hollywood version of Scientology's 'founder' L. Ron Hubbard's 1982 Sci-Fi masterwork 'Battlefield Earth' directed by Roger Christian also Director of 'Aliens', the 2nd part of the 4 part sequel. I think I have that all right. I'm reading 'Battlefield Earth' at present. It's a good romp, and well written.  L. Ron was undoubtedly one of the architects of Sci-Fi, with a proper understanding of and accurately defining the genre. But perhaps he should have stuck to writing and not to seeking immortality through what would undeniably become a 'Rotten, Corrupt & Sinister' cult.

'Battlefield earth' is a story about an alien colonised Earth in the yr 3000 turned into a mining outpost where a near solitary & all but de-civilised human survivor Jonnie Goodboy Tyler forms a resistance movement to re-unite the few remaining humans and reclaim the planet. I haven't gotten far into it yet; it's well over a 1000 pages in small print paperback!

Hubbard died in 1986, long before these shenaneggans began. But the cult is organised around a belief system of 1000-year reincarnation & that seems to involve UFO mythology as placed in the modern zeitgeist.

And from there in it just gets more interesting. Former & 33yr long Church member, Larry Anderson, actor inStar-Trek 'INSURRECTION', one of the latest offerings, was, before he left, the PR face & voice that welcomed new or prospective members to the Church of Scientology.

833  Multimedia Center / Documentaries / Church of Scientology Documentary. 'Corrupt, Sinister and Dangerous'. on: September 29, 2010, 01:29:38 pm
Panorama - The Secrets of Scientology
Available for 6 days from 29th Sept, 2010.

Brits! Remember John Sweeney's intrepid confrontation with 'The Church of Scientology' back in 2007?

Well the big mans' back with new help from the now defected former Church's Chief of 'The Office of Special Affairs' and also defected former Grand Inquisitor to the very Tom Cruise & John Travolta.

Plenty of 'Illuminatus' wishlist style icon worship and imagery within this organisation, as seen in the docu.

L Ron Hubbards' belief system these people claim has been hijacked by an all too very American surveillance & snooping culture. John Sweeney was renowned for exploding in front of a picture of the Twin Towers burning inside the Church's 'Museum of Death'. Now the former Grand Inquistor and chief of Scientology Security admit that he was led into this reaction, psychologically.

Sweeney: "Did [he] want this to happen?"

Former Grand Inquisitor:
"Most definitely"
"A set up is probably the wrong word, it was Tommy intention to provoke a reaction like that"

Charles Hendry now UK MINISTER FOR CLIMATE CHANGE is seen in the next shot promoting the Church of Scientology in the House of Commons.
834  Science & Technology / Project Blue Beam / UFO's / Alien Hoax Exposed / The Starchild Project — 'Little Green Men' Latest. DNA results 'are in'. on: September 27, 2010, 01:48:54 pm
THE STARCHILD SKULL is a unique 900-year-old bone skull found in Mexico in the 1930s. The Starchild Project is an informal organization which began in 1999 when Ray and Melanie Young, the owners of the Starchild Skull, asked Lloyd Pye to head research efforts to determine what caused the unusual shape and properties of the bone.

The results uncovered by Pye’s team ruled out all known deformities, and presented the scientific community with a genetic and physiological profile never before seen on Earth.

Watch Video: > > >

2010 DNA Findings

 A "shotgun" technique allowing for recovery of unusual or degraded DNA has successfully recovered the Starchild Skull's nuclear DNA, and it is out of this world! > > > Read more


In Brief: A modified "shotgun" DNA recovery technique has been successfully used to recover coherent segments of the Starchild Skull's nuclear DNA. Of the (approx.) 3 billion base pairs in the skull's genome, several thousand have been recovered. These nuclear DNA fragments have been analyzed by the National Institutes of Health BLAST program, and a substantial percentage of that DNA has "no significant similarity" to any DNA previously found on Earth.

These results have been verified and repeated; however, more DNA needs to be recovered and analyzed before a formal report can be completed.

835  Science & Technology / Project Blue Beam / UFO's / Alien Hoax Exposed / NAZI UFO BBC Radio Four Documentary. on: September 27, 2010, 01:30:05 pm
Steve Punt turns super sleuth, investigating a range of curious cases.

"Punt PI visits the 'The Henge' in Poland: a test rig for Nazi UFOs?"

Listen now (30 minutes)
5 days left to listen
Available to listen till Friday 1 Oct.
Last broadcast on Saturday, 10:30 on BBC Radio 4.

'Today, Punt probes the curious claim that the Nazis developed flying saucers. This initially bizarre theory starts to carry a ring of truth as our gumshoe delves deeper into the evidence. Punt assesses sightings of strange lights in wartime skies - so-called foo fighters - and pores through CIA dossiers and old newspaper cuttings in search of the facts.

Following the paper trail across Europe, Punt is led to Poland and to a mysterious site dubbed The Henge where his contact, Igor, promises to spill the beans on top secret Nazi research apparently conducted there.'

Producer: Laurence Grissell.
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