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1  The Wall / Personal Beliefs / Bible Thumping / Atheism / Re: The rapture cult on: January 30, 2011, 04:28:55 pm
So I take it this is all a joke to you?
2  The Wall / Personal Beliefs / Bible Thumping / Atheism / Re: The rapture cult on: January 29, 2011, 11:59:06 pm
Your math is a little off. 14.4 X 100 = 14,400 not 144,000.
3  The Wall / Personal Beliefs / Bible Thumping / Atheism / Re: A Challenge to King James onlyists on: January 26, 2011, 09:38:28 pm
"Modern translations" is a relative term. The KJV was both modern and controversial in its day. The irony of your argument is that the modern translations incorporate the oldest mss which the KJV rejects. I'm sure you have no quarrel with the concept of the recovery of truth. That is what the reformation was all about and subsequent movements in church history as well. What we need is to recover all the truth of the NT church possible. If ancient mss help in this quest, why not use them?
4  The Wall / Personal Beliefs / Bible Thumping / Atheism / Re: The rapture cult on: January 26, 2011, 12:26:12 am
I have no righteousness in myself. My righteousness is in the Lord Jesus Christ.
5  The Wall / Personal Beliefs / Bible Thumping / Atheism / Re: The rapture cult on: January 25, 2011, 06:01:08 pm
In regard to your first post, I don't suffer women teachers and in regard to the second, I have no respect for Alex Jones' understanding of scripture. In fact I have serious doubts as to whether or not he's a real Christian. He doesn't seem to have a clue about the depravity of Adamic man. He is no better in this regard than all the worldly philosophers and false religions.
6  The Wall / Personal Beliefs / Bible Thumping / Atheism / Re: Rapture DEBUNKED on: January 25, 2011, 05:49:06 pm
Obviously the narrator of the videos didn't have a good scriptural understanding of the rapture. The passage in Matt. 24:40 is speaking of preparation for the judgement of the sheep and the goats in Matt. 25 not the rapture. Chapter 25 begins with the rapture where we see the foolish and wise virgins speaking of the coming of the bridegroom. This is the recovery of the truth of the rapture which occurred in the 19th century. The phrase "wherein the Son of Man cometh" doesn't appear in all mss. It was added in the TR  and some others while it was omitted in a number of mss. Verse 31 introduces Christ as the Son of man coming in glory. This is the second coming to earth to judge the sheep and the goat nations. We have two distinct comings with two distinct judgements. The rapture is not the second coming to earth because the church is caught up in the air. In Acts 1:11 the apostles were told that He would return in like manner as they saw Him go. How did they see Him go? In secret to the rest of the world in a cloud. With regard to a shout and trumpet, God is able to make it so that only His true believers will hear it no matter how loud it is. With regard to those who are left behind they will be under strong delusions so they won't be anxious as to why the true believers are gone. In fact, they will be relieved to see them gone. As for the work of MS Rossing, I don't suffer women teachers.
7  The Wall / Personal Beliefs / Bible Thumping / Atheism / Re: Absolute proof of evolution. on: August 24, 2010, 09:10:01 pm
Dok,
I spoke out of turn. I thought the variations that occur naturally as a result of adaptation of species to various conditions were mutations. I googled mutation and apparently mutation is something different. I apologize.
8  Science & Technology / Invasion of the Naked Body Scanners! / Full-Body Scan Technology Deployed In Street-Roving Vans on: August 24, 2010, 03:47:55 pm
Full-Body Scan Technology Deployed In Street-Roving Vans
By ANDY GREENBERG

As the privacy controversy around full-body security scans begins to simmer, it’s worth noting that courthouses and airport security checkpoints aren’t the only places where backscatter x-ray vision is being deployed. The same technology, capable of seeing through clothes and walls, has also been rolling out on U.S. streets.

American Science & Engineering, a company based in Billerica, Massachusetts, has sold U.S. and foreign government agencies more than 500 backscatter x-ray scanners mounted in vans that can be driven past neighboring vehicles to see their contents, Joe Reiss, a vice president of marketing at the company told me in an interview. While the biggest buyer of AS&E’s machines over the last seven years has been the Department of Defense operations in Afghanistan and Iraq, Reiss says law enforcement agencies have also deployed the vans to search for vehicle-based bombs in the U.S.

“This product is now the largest selling cargo and vehicle inspection system ever,” says Reiss.

Here’s a video of the vans in action.

The Z Backscatter Vans, or ZBVs, as the company calls them, bounce a narrow stream of x-rays off and through nearby objects, and read which ones come back. Absorbed rays indicate dense material such as steel. Scattered rays indicate less-dense objects that can include explosives, drugs, or human bodies. That capability makes them powerful tools for security, law enforcement, and border control.

It would also seem to make the vans mobile versions of the same scanning technique that’s riled privacy advocates as it’s been deployed in airports around the country. The Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC) is currently suing the DHS to stop airport deployments of the backscatter scanners, which can reveal detailed images of human bodies. (Just how much detail became clear last May, when TSA employee Rolando Negrin was charged with assaulting a coworker who made jokes about the size of Negrin’s genitalia after Negrin received a full-body scan.)

“It’s no surprise that goverments and vendors are very enthusiastic about [the vans],” says Marc Rotenberg, executive director of EPIC. “But from a privacy perspective, it’s one of the most intrusive technologies conceivable.”

AS&E’s Reiss counters privacy critics by pointing out that the ZBV scans don’t capture nearly as much detail of human bodies as their airport counterparts. The company’s marketing materials say that its “primary purpose is to image vehicles and their contents,” and that “the system cannot be used to identify an individual, or the race, sex or age of the person.”

Though Reiss admits that the systems “to a large degree will penetrate clothing,” he points to the lack of features in images of humans like the one shown at right, far less detail than is obtained from the airport scans. “From a privacy standpoint, I’m hard-pressed to see what the concern or objection could be,” he says.

But EPIC’s Rotenberg says that the scans, like those in the airport, potentially violate the fourth amendment. “Without a warrant, the government doesn’t have a right to peer beneath your clothes without probable cause,” he says. Even airport scans are typically used only as a secondary security measure, he points out. “If the scans can only be used in exceptional cases in airports, the idea that they can be used routinely on city streets is a very hard argument to make.”

The TSA’s official policy dictates that full-body scans must be viewed in a separate room from any guards dealing directly with subjects of the scans, and that the scanners won’t save any images. Just what sort of safeguards might be in place for AS&E’s scanning vans isn’t clear, given that the company won’t reveal just which law enforcement agencies, organizations within the DHS, or foreign governments have purchased the equipment. Reiss says AS&E has customers on “all continents except Antarctica.”

Reiss adds that the vans do have the capability of storing images. “Sometimes customers need to save images for evidentiary reasons,” he says. “We do what our customers need.”

What do you think? Do AS&E’s vans threaten your privacy? Do airport full-body scans? Or are either one–or both–a fair price for the security they could provide? Let me know your thoughts in comments below.
9  The Wall / Personal Beliefs / Bible Thumping / Atheism / Re: Absolute proof of evolution. on: August 24, 2010, 02:35:07 pm
Dok,
That's a simplistic view of mutation and would do nothing to convince a true skeptic. Those are only mutations gone wrong. Nature is full of examples of mutations that went right. The problem is when the evolutionist makes the leap to interspecies mutation like an ape becoming a man. We don't see apes mutating into men.
10  The Wall / Personal Beliefs / Bible Thumping / Atheism / Re: A Challenge to King James onlyists on: August 24, 2010, 01:55:52 pm
No you didn't and good day to you too.
11  The Wall / Personal Beliefs / Bible Thumping / Atheism / Re: A Challenge to King James onlyists on: August 24, 2010, 12:15:44 pm
OK Dok, assignment complete. Roll Eyes I stand by my original statement that the article is a DEFENSE of Beza's conjecture, not a refutation that he made a conjecture. The whole article is a conjecture about a conjecture. How does that refute the fact that the KJV text was translated from a conjecture rather than actual words contained in actual mss?
12  General / Introductions / Re: Welcome on: August 23, 2010, 10:38:01 am
Hi guys. Wouldn't they attack Infowars if they were trying to take down free speech?
13  General / General Discussion / Re: Philly requiring bloggers to pay $300 for a business license on: August 23, 2010, 10:25:07 am
Doesn't the term "license" mean that they are treating free speech as a privilege to be regulated by the government rather than a right guaranteed by the constitution?
14  General / Ridiculous News / Oddball Stuff / Re: Pastor Plans 'Burn a Koran Day'—September 11 on: August 23, 2010, 10:05:36 am
This wrong but not for the reasons being stated. As a real Christian I hate the koran and Islam. They are abominations to God. The reason the burning is wrong is that Christ isn't judging the world at this time and so any Christian acting in that character is out of place. That also goes for all those Christian patriots who are taking up arms to fight the NWO.
15  The Wall / Personal Beliefs / Bible Thumping / Atheism / A Challenge to King James onlyists on: August 22, 2010, 06:15:15 pm
This video makes a good point:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jabIHZATXMM&feature=related
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